Plynkes | 09 Dec 2006 6:34 p.m. PST |
Let it go Bill. It's taking over your life (and TMP). I don't see why anyone would need figures to play this game anyway. Seems to me they are completely superfluous (and thus this game has no place on TMP). It's a story-telling game. There are no move rates or strict turns or anything like that. You do not play it out on a map with measuring or counting hexes. Using figures is completely pointless (mind you I feel that way about all role-playing games). |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Dec 2006 8:43 p.m. PST |
It's a story-telling game. There are no move rates or strict turns or anything like that. You do not play it out on a map with measuring or counting hexes. If you are saying that miniatures are only used when you need to measure things
I don't agree. |
Ravens Forge Miniatures | 09 Dec 2006 8:50 p.m. PST |
>Using figures is completely pointless (mind you I feel >that way about all role-playing games). I tend to disagree on this point. I feel that miniatures and a small amount of scenery ADD to RPG's. One of the best I have ever seen was a custom made dungeon, probably 3'x4' per level, in 25mm scale. Guy had probably 12 or more levels, and more in the works. Full on RPG experience (AD&D). Made me want to do the same thing, but I am doing it in 15mm. Even with minimal scenery – heck, just a big write on piece of white board laid down for making map as you go – even then figs can be useful for showing who is where in the party. |
Ravens Forge Miniatures | 09 Dec 2006 8:51 p.m. PST |
Oh, and another thing – I use paper figs instaed of metal in 25+mm scale. I still have TONS of 15mm metal though! I primed 154+ METAL 15mm figs for my own personal use just a few days ago (before it got so cold outside you could hang meat!). |
Captain Swing | 10 Dec 2006 4:19 a.m. PST |
I'd say, with relation to the poll, that it depends on the type of manga, some of it being far more realistic than just BESM
So what style of campaign you running Bill? |
RobH | 10 Dec 2006 4:20 a.m. PST |
I think miniatures have always had a place in RPG's, it makes it much easier for players to identify with the surroundings and locations of doors, obstacles, monsters etc. Plus there is the attraction of buying or converting and painting figures to match your character. |
Grinning Norm | 10 Dec 2006 5:06 a.m. PST |
I would count myself to the group of people who abhor miniatures of any kind for use in roleplaying games. Not needing anything more than maybe a sketch map to give an idea of the world around the players is one of the central elements and challenges in a roleplaying game. If I wanted to play with miniatures and build scenery to move though, I'd stay with plain old miniatures wargaming. |
Plynkes | 10 Dec 2006 5:41 a.m. PST |
Fair enough, each to their own. I find using miniatures spoils role-playing for me. I prefer the game to take place in the imagination of the players. But I'm not trying to start a campaign to ban it or anything. If you chaps like role-playing with figures, more power to you. |
Darrell B D Day | 10 Dec 2006 6:53 a.m. PST |
If Polynikes hadn't added that last little bit in parentheses in his opening post, this topic wouldn't have veered away from the very good central point he made. Pity. DBDD |
yeoman | 10 Dec 2006 9:04 a.m. PST |
But its a damn good central point and one I agree with. lets get something else on the front page and chuck bizare thing in the 'seemed like a good idea at the time' Bin. |
Roll Again | 10 Dec 2006 10:35 a.m. PST |
This is not the sort of site that I would expect [ever] to see the phrase "panty party". When will this end? |
Goldwyrm | 10 Dec 2006 12:23 p.m. PST |
Sadly, I couldn't vote. There's no poll option to cover: I don't care what the counters are. I wouldn't get within 100 feet of people playing this game. And if I knew them I'd be embarrased and pretend I didn't see them from across the room if they tried to wave me over. And on the tangent point- Miniatures are very useful for RPGs. Even without a map or groundscale they are useful for spacial relationships. Who is closer to the monster, who is blocking who from firing, etc. |
Hundvig | 10 Dec 2006 12:29 p.m. PST |
Imagine that you are running an upcoming anime-style game of Panty Explosion See, right there is too much of a stretch for me
:) |
Dentatus | 10 Dec 2006 3:12 p.m. PST |
You lost me right from the start too. This is getting a bit puerile now. |
David Kuijt at work | 10 Dec 2006 4:07 p.m. PST |
Using puerile in a sentence! I knew there was a reason I took a look in this thread. |
Skeptic | 10 Dec 2006 4:46 p.m. PST |
To avoid offending the sensibilities of those who somehow see something offensive even in anime figures that are clearly non-sexualized, they should all be drawn wearing burqas with sailor suit trim! ;-) |
kallman | 10 Dec 2006 5:39 p.m. PST |
I was a Dungeon Master loooog before I was wargamer. You might say that RPG's lead me into miniature wargaming as I found minis so useful for maintaining control of the games I ran. My players were in control of where their figure was on the map I had drawn out. Therefore the complaints of," No! NO! I was not the one in the hallway when the Dragon breathed its fire!" were put to an end. As has already been stated above, using minis in a RPG helps the players to see relationships to their enviroment so as to make a comparison as to where they are. My players enjoyed collecting their own figures to represent their characters. Because I was the DM, I was provided with the excuse to collect large numbers of monster figures, NPC's and other minature items. Some of these became my first fantasy armies for wargaming. I never went as far as having much in the way of 3D terrain as I used a vinyl grid map that erasable markers could be used on. However, if I was to get back into running a RPG ever again the terrain options available now are fantastic. Kim |
The Gonk | 11 Dec 2006 5:21 a.m. PST |
Where's the "would never play Panty Explosion and am worried about the Editor's interest in it" choice? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 11 Dec 2006 8:24 a.m. PST |
So what style of campaign you running Bill? One that's art-neutral, I think. |
Margites7 | 11 Dec 2006 11:57 a.m. PST |
They should be drawn in a maximum security facility for registered sex offenders
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CeruLucifus | 11 Dec 2006 2:53 p.m. PST |
I voted, "definitely normal style". That way the figures can be used in a wider range of games. Never a bad idea when designing a figure range. Who knows, perhaps the publisher of PE will come out with another game. On the use of miniatures in RPGs
what whitemanticore said. |
Cke1st | 11 Dec 2006 3:55 p.m. PST |
I agree with Goldwyrm, but his answer is too long for this poll. It should be brief. |
Goldwyrm | 11 Dec 2006 6:46 p.m. PST |
I agree that was too verbose. I was speaking in an inner voice. After a few coarser attempts, how about: "Planning to play what?? Uh huh..No thanks. I've got to be somewhere else..far away." |
Skeptic | 11 Dec 2006 7:16 p.m. PST |
I couldn't imagine playing in, nevermind running the game, so no vote from me. |
Cke1st | 11 Dec 2006 8:20 p.m. PST |
That was a feeble attempt at a pun, Goldwyrm. "Panty." "Brief." Never mind. |
Goldwyrm | 12 Dec 2006 6:12 a.m. PST |
ah..good one. I might have gotten it if you added that there was a boxer rebellion going on over this. |