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Tango0111 Dec 2020 9:43 p.m. PST

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Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2020 1:17 p.m. PST

Revisionism.

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2020 2:21 p.m. PST

It would be nice if there were charges, evidence, trials and convictions of anyone guilty of actual terrorism against the U.S.. Its been 18 years since the first inmates were sent to Guantánamo Bay, most without any due process in that time.

A prisoner was just "released" (not physically yet) after 18 years in detention there, never having been charged. Guilty or not guilty, he spent 18 years in American custody without being processed within either the U.S. legal system, or the U.S. military system. link

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Dec 2020 7:04 p.m. PST

There have been over 500 convictions under terrorism statutes in the the US, with evidence presented at trial, in the last 20 years. They are in the public record.

most without any due process in that time.

Which part of the Geneva convention are you claiming was violated?

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2020 7:41 p.m. PST

Those at Guantánamo Bay, where they are held outside of civil legal matters, are not part of the U.S. legal system. Any terrorist returned to the U.S. is tried and if found guilty in an U.S. court, is sentenced and imprisoned or sent to death row as appropriate. Justice is served.

Those who get tried within the U.S., are charged, evidence produced and are convicted within a fair amount of time. Note my link. The example is not meant to say that he was innocent by any means, just that he was/is being held for over 18 years and is now going to be released without ever having been charged.

I'd like to believe that the U.S. legal system, either civilian or military, is prompt, trying an individual in a fair and honest fashion. Examples appear every year to prove that is not the case, but one can hope.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Dec 2020 7:18 a.m. PST

held outside of civil legal matters, are not part of the U.S. legal system

Because they are prisoners of war who have committed war crimes, not people who have committed civil offenses.

Any terrorist returned to the U.S. is tried and if found guilty in an U.S. court, is sentenced and imprisoned or sent to death row as appropriate.

First, they are not returned, they are captured in combat committing acts of war.

I would recommend you start reading those 500+ cases. Most are deported to another country that treats them as prisoners of war under the same code. Do you have the same problem with the other 196 countries that conform to that standard?

Where the war criminals have also committed civil offenses in the US, they may be tried for those offenses too.

held for over 18 years and is now going to be released without ever having been charged.

You just contradicted

. Any terrorist returned to the U.S. is tried and if found guilty in an U.S. court, is sentenced and imprisoned or sent to death row as appropriate.

He was "returned" to the US (after never having been here), and not tried in a U. S. court, imprisoned from such, or sent to death row.

Regardless of the contradiction, what part of the Geneva Convention does this violate?

I'd like to believe … is prompt,

If you would rather have it be some vague, personal concept of "prompt" rather than conform to the agreed up on legal standards, it is your right to have that personal opinion.

Personal logo Dan Cyr Supporting Member of TMP13 Dec 2020 8:12 p.m. PST

Well, my comments sailed right by you, so I'll let it go.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Dec 2020 8:20 p.m. PST

Nah, keep the self-contradictions factually incorrect statements coming.

Tango0115 Dec 2020 9:42 p.m. PST

(smile)


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