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Xintao31 May 2019 8:05 p.m. PST

Absolutely amazing and disturbing.

skippy000131 May 2019 8:43 p.m. PST

I watch it in the dark. The decision cycle really shocked me. The 'bio-robot' decision was horrific. I keep wondering what we would've done if it happened here.

15th Hussar01 Jun 2019 7:01 a.m. PST

Yeah, it's ripping me to shreds inside.

I'm guessing that 3 Mile Island would not have been unlike what happened if it had gone truly south (though I understand the Russian graphite system was very different from ours).

I have nothing but respect for the three men that went in to stop the first disaster, the Bio-Robots and Russian Miners!

Col Durnford01 Jun 2019 1:14 p.m. PST

It helped that at Three Mile Island there was a containment building like all western plants. The Soviets always did have safety issues.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2019 1:20 p.m. PST

Chernobyl was entirely different from 3 Mile Island. Different reactor process, different design, different engineering, different safeguards. In fact, as designed Chernobyl should never have been built and would never have been built in the US. It was a disaster waiting to happen. (That's what a one-party totalitarian communist state gets you.)

As for 3MI, though that's often sited as a disaster, it was in fact the opposite. The safety systems did EXACTLY what they were designed to do, despite some human error involved. Better design, better engineering, better everything. Was it a mess? Yes. A scare? Certainly. Was it going to be an actual disaster? No. If anything, 3MI was an example of how nuclear power can actually be safe— and that was a system designed and built some thirty to forty years ago. The designs and engineering of Western-style reactors have continued to improve.

But Chernobyl is a reminder that crappy people (by which I mean totalitarian states and their minions) can and will design crappy stuff, and put us all in danger. Think about that when you hear claims from certain two-bit states that they're "just" trying to build power plants for "their people." Even if that were true (and it certainly is not), do you really think any nuclear plants they build would be models of efficiency, safety, and environmental responsibility? If you do, remember Chernobyl, and think again.

I'd love to see the HBO special, but I don't have HBO.

15th Hussar01 Jun 2019 3:31 p.m. PST

Parzival…understood about 3MI, it was always a question of what if/would/could, but it was also very serious indeed.

In the series, one of the Senior Russian Minister's and the lead scientist sink a barb quite deeply when they confront one of the aparatchnik's (sp?) in charge of Pripyat and he announces that all is well and no evacuations are needed. To which the Minister replies, "This is what happens when a former shoe factory baron is appointed to a Ministry position" (or a reasonable facsimile thereof).

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jun 2019 4:13 a.m. PST

+1 Parzival

Yes, TMI is flouted as "the worst nuclear accident in the US". And yes it was. And it:

Killed no one
Injured no one
sickened no one
Damaged no private property (aside from the reactor itself)
Caused no long-term health problem (despite hundreds of studies trying to prove otherwise)

So for 'the worst', that was pretty darn good :)

Col Durnford03 Jun 2019 7:50 a.m. PST

As the saying of the time went: "More people died in the back seat of Ted Kennedy's car than at Three Mile Island".

It is also what happens when there is no separation between business and government. It seem like the Soviets ran all their business operations like 5PM on the Friday at the Department of Motor vehicles.

Xintao04 Jun 2019 10:17 p.m. PST

Parzival,

HBO Now is a streaming service. Free trial for 7 days, and only $15 USD a month after that.

Chernobyl is worth the $15 USD for one month

Treat yourself.

Xin/Jeff

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