| Cacique Caribe | 31 May 2018 10:26 p.m. PST |
Are all the large glacier breaks taking place close to where the more active of the 90+ volcanoes and the main faults are located? Larsen C Ice Shelf:
link QUESTION:
Could there be a connection? Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks. Dan
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| jdginaz | 01 Jun 2018 1:19 a.m. PST |
Come on CC quit bring up possible natural causes for those kind of things, disturbs the and angers the True Believers. Then they have to start their tirades all over again so the masses don't start thinking for themselves. |
 etotheipi  | 01 Jun 2018 4:15 a.m. PST |
Are all the large glacier breaks taking place close to where the more active of the 90+ volcanoes and the main faults are located? No. Could there be a connection? Yes. There are more volcanoes than those. There are more ice breaks than Larsen. In a complex system like this, attributing behaviour to a single cause (AGW, volcanoes, penguins, etc.) is usually gross oversimplification. Apportioning contribution of multiple causes is difficult and usually involves complex math to describe (not news article math). Occasionally, a "prime driver" cause can be identified; usually it is a plurality of the influence, not a majority. Caveat: Unless you are attributing cause to the Pittsburgh Penguins. They actually cause everything bad in the universe. |
 StoneMtnMinis  | 01 Jun 2018 5:15 a.m. PST |
Look Out! The crayons are being unboxed and the pretty graphs and charts are soon to follow. |
| Col Durnford | 01 Jun 2018 5:29 a.m. PST |
Tread carefully, I was sent to the DH for attacking the AGW religion. |
| Winston Smith | 01 Jun 2018 6:43 a.m. PST |
A graph is worth a billion words.
That's why I haven't read Atlas Shrugged. It needs graphs. And charts. |
| Winston Smith | 01 Jun 2018 7:36 a.m. PST |
By the way, whatever happened to the famous Kilauea ice sheets?
Gone! Melted! Vanished!
Coincidence?
I think not. |
| Ed Mohrmann | 01 Jun 2018 9:32 a.m. PST |
Come come Winston ! All that ice was needed to cool
various Pineapple-Rum concoctions !
31 days, m'man… |
| princeman | 01 Jun 2018 11:38 a.m. PST |
So global warming is coming from within? |
| Mithmee | 01 Jun 2018 12:32 p.m. PST |
Come on CC quit bring up possible natural causes for those kind of things, disturbs the and angers the True Believers. Will the "Truth" hurts. |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Jun 2018 12:59 p.m. PST |
Etotheipi: "Caveat: Unless you are attributing cause to the Pittsburgh Penguins. They actually cause everything bad in the universe." If it's seismic-related then there are a few influential imams near the Persian Gulf who will say it was caused by women wearing jeans. I couldn't believe they would blame even the earthquakes on women. Insane. Dan |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2018 1:38 a.m. PST |
So, even though earthquakes in Chile seem to cause icequakes all the way down in Antarctica … link … even so, I think there will always be a few diehards who will still insist that Antarctic ice movement has no relation whatsoever to the Antarctic seismic and plate tectonic activity that is taking place right next to and/or under those same glaciers and ice shelves. :) Dan
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| Bowman | 02 Jun 2018 3:52 a.m. PST |
By applying morphometric analysis to a digital elevation model of the
West Antarctic Rift System, and assessing the results with respect to auxiliary information from ice-surface expressions to aerogeophysical data, we have identified 138 subglacial volcanic edifices spread throughout the rift. link Hmmmm…….no braying about those evil scientists massaging the data to arrive at a preconceived outcome? Are all the large glacier breaks taking place close to where the more active of the 90+ volcanoes and the main faults are located? No, because the activity of the volcanoes is still under debate. From the same article: "The activity of the WARS has been the subject of a longstanding debate, with one side advocating a largely inactive rift (LeMasurier 2008) and others suggesting large-scale volcanism (Behrendt et al. 2002)." And, of course, anything in between. Let me see if I have this straight: Proxy science if it confirms personal biases = good science
Proxy science if it contradicts personal biases = bad science
Graphs = bad science
Maps = good science |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2018 4:27 a.m. PST |
"Hmmmm…….no braying about those evil scientists massaging the data to arrive at a preconceived outcome?" Lol. I thought someone said that such things never happen. :) "Proxy science if it confirms personal biases = good science
Proxy science if it contradicts personal biases = bad science" I always thought that it was interesting how the immediate reason given to the world for the glacier calving was man-made "global warming" (now called "climate change"), even though warm soil surface temperatures and tremors had not yet been ruled out. So it seems like the picking and choosing of what to include or exclude happens on both sides. As for the maps … what can I say? I've always loved maps. More so when you can overlay them. Dan
PS. And it it is found that volcanism is indeed a large part (if not most) of the problem with glaciers in Antarctica … then maybe this could be the next big campaign:
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| Bowman | 02 Jun 2018 7:03 a.m. PST |
Dan, you missed the point. |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jun 2018 7:52 a.m. PST |
Did I? What, that it's still being debated? Dan |
| Bowman | 02 Jun 2018 8:11 a.m. PST |
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