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Tango0118 Jan 2018 12:37 p.m. PST

…. LESS UNCERTAIN.

"IF ONE IS the loneliest number, two is the most terrifying. Humanity must not pass a rise of 2 degrees Celsius in global temperature from pre-industrial levels, so says the Paris climate agreement. Cross that line and the global effects of climate change start looking less like a grave situation and more like a catastrophe.

The frustrating bit about studying climate change is the inherent uncertainty of it all. Predicting where it's going is a matter of mashing up thousands of variables in massive, confounding systems. But today in the journal Nature, researchers claim they've reduced the uncertainty in a key metric of climate change by 60 percent, narrowing a range of potential warming from 3°C to 1.2°C. And that could have implications for how the international community arrives at climate goals like it did in Paris. Bonus: The new numbers paint a not altogether terrifying picture of humanity's response to a climate crisis. Hell, you might even call it vaguely optimistic…."
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Amicalement
Armand

Bowman19 Jan 2018 5:59 a.m. PST

Interesting. So we are tightening the errors bars of future warming. Turns out the warming may be less than expected due to increases in air pollution, which increases the atmospheric albedo. "Vaguely" optimistic is right.

Tango0119 Jan 2018 11:00 a.m. PST

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Cacique Caribe19 Jan 2018 3:25 p.m. PST

Why did the chicken cross the road? Global warming.

Why did the chicken cross again, back to where it started? Climate change.

Dan
PS. Either way, the terraforming process is moving along just fine, and according to plan. We just want to keep you puny humans guessing what that plan is. :)

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Gear Pilot19 Jan 2018 4:39 p.m. PST

We had an ice storm here in San Antonio this Tuesday. Shut down the whole city. We had snow a month or so ago. I've been here 10 years and its the first time that I've seen snow. If global warming is a thing, then I wish it would hurry up.

mandt219 Jan 2018 8:53 p.m. PST

Interesting piece. Though I am not so sure there is as much "uncertainty" in climate science as he suggests.

Anyway, here's all you never really wanted to know about "equilibrium climate sensitivity."

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Cacique Caribe19 Jan 2018 10:20 p.m. PST

I for one welcome the new coastlines … whenever they finally decide to show up.

Dan

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Bowman20 Jan 2018 6:43 a.m. PST

We had an ice storm here in San Antonio this Tuesday.

Sigh, I know where we are going with this.

Here is a good explanation for your observations:

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Here is a map of the global temperatures on Jan 3, 2018:

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Notice how cold North America is. Also notice how warm the rest of the globe is. In fact, the temperatures across the world are above average. That's why it's called global warming.

By the way, the last time the jet stream dipped real low to San Antonio was in 2015. If it didn't snow in that year it was due to the lack of moisture in the air and not the temperature.

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ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2018 10:21 a.m. PST

Sorry but I don't trust info from "Climate Change Institute" doesn't sound like they are open to both sides of the story.
Just my $.02 USD

Bowman20 Jan 2018 3:40 p.m. PST

Do you have any specific details that you can share?

The article is based on research published in the prestigious journal Nature

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It is bolstered by Swiss research done by their Federal Institute of Technology.

Knutti, R. et al. Beyond equilibrium climate sensitivity. Nat. Geosci. 10, 727–736 (2017)

As well as others:

Gregory, J. M. & Andrews, T. Variation in climate sensitivity and feedback parameters during the historical period. Geophys. Res. Lett. 43, 3911–3920 (2016)

Forster, P. M. Inference of climate sensitivity from analysis of Earth's radiation budget. Ann. Rev. Earth Planet. Sci. 44, 85–106 (2016)

All pretty recent research corroborating this. What's wrong with the University of Maine?

climatechange.umaine.edu

I got my undergraduate degree in biology at McMaster University. It didn't seem like they were very open to "both sides of the story" when it came to the veracity of evolution. Should I be worried?

Col Durnford21 Jan 2018 12:57 p.m. PST

Can't we all just agree the Jar Jar Binks is a Sith Lord!

It's much more fun.

Tango0121 Jan 2018 3:42 p.m. PST

Ha-Ha-Ha….

Amicalement
Armand

Mithmee22 Jan 2018 1:38 p.m. PST

Sigh, I know where we are going with this.

Yup right into what I have been saying all along.

Bowman22 Jan 2018 4:54 p.m. PST

Yup right into what I have been saying all along.

Ya we got it……international conspiracy involving every government, every organized scientific body, and every university on the planet. Yadda Yadda.

We are well aware of your "contributions" here.

Charlie 1223 Jan 2018 9:10 p.m. PST

Yup right into what I have been saying all along.

Note to self: Increase holdings in tin foil….

Bowman24 Jan 2018 6:09 a.m. PST

Reynolds Group Holdings is the biggest manufacturer of tin foil. I fact they just acquired Alcan Aluminun foil from Canada. There seems to be enough business.

Mithmee24 Jan 2018 1:30 p.m. PST

You do know that Tin Foil does not help.

Bowman24 Jan 2018 5:49 p.m. PST

We know.

From RationalWiki:

"The tinfoil hat is a sort of mocking symbol of paranoia and conspiracy theory advocacy, derived by the use of some paranoid schizophrenics with persecution and mind control delusions …"

Hope that helps.

Col Durnford24 Jan 2018 6:50 p.m. PST

You guys are being to hard on yourselves.

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