"‘Chappaquiddick’ Trailer Dives into Ted Kennedy’s ..." Topic

…Notorious Scandal.

"Entertainment Studios has released the first Chappaquiddick trailer. The film is based on the true story of the Chappaquiddick incident where Ted Kennedy (Jason Clarke) was in a car accident with Mary Jo Kopechne (Kate Mara), and the ensuing cover-up that created more questions than answers. The film dives into Kennedy wrestling with his desire to tell the truth and his need to uphold his family's storied legacy and political ambitions.

I caught the film at TIFF and I was impressed at how director John Curran was able to weave a story that never sanitized or damned Kennedy, letting the story unfold to see both the despicable and understandable reactions to his predicament. Clarke is outstanding, able to wring both pathos and pity from the character while never absolving him of his behavior. The movie is a bit of a high-wire act, but one that's largely successful, so I hope people check it out next year…."
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Armand

"his desire to tell the truth and his need to uphold his family's storied legacy and political ambitions"

Well, we all know which one won out. If it had been any one of us little people, we would have gotten nailed to the wall. So, pass.

Besides, it's already making it more about "his predicament", as if he had been the victim in all of this, than about hers. Definitely pass.

Dan

It wasn't a "predicament." It was murder.
Pass.

I agree with Caribe. I lived through the whole incident when I was younger down there. The main point to remember is that he knew she was there and he did NOTHING! Also when time came for him to run for re-election members of his staff would re-open that wound and visit the family to see if they had plans to bring the whole matter up again. If it had been one of us we would have been locked up til the cows came home. I too will pass.

Just shows that the hollywood left will make a movie about any piece of human garbage. Talk about trying to put lipstick on a porker! PASS!

Yet, despite all the good solid reasons to exploit this to the max, we will probably hear next to nothing from the feminazis.

Dan

Crooked politician who got away with at least vehicular manslaughter, if not actual murder. Typical Hollywood hero.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Depends on who's making the movie. The glamorous image and myth of the Kennedy clan are no longer what they used to be. Bobby K came off as a total d-bag in the recent LBJ movie.

Should have died in prison. No interest in watching at all.

If the movie portrays the event as anything less than a rich privalaged well-connected white guy getting away with vehicular manslaughter and fleeing the scene of an accident, then it is a tragic white-wash that should never have been made. If it portrays Kennedy as a rich privalaged well-connected white guy getting away with vehicular manslaughter and fleeing the scene of an accident but is conflicted with guilt but still guilty as sin then perhaps I could accept that. Either way, it I won't be watching it.

But "Hollywood left" and "feminazis" really? Come on guys you're better than that. Be more creative in your criticism and less predictable.

"Hollywood left" and "feminazis." You would think they're complaining about Rian Johnson for what he did to Star Wars.

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There seems to be an inordinate amount of vitriol directed towards a certain purple-haired resistance vice admiral played by Laura Dern.

Let's see what reaction takes place from the ultra feminists then. I don't mean people seeking equality either. I mean those for whom everything is some sort of attack by the patriarchy.

If they stay relatively quiet, then my prediction will have been true.

But if they get all bent out of shape, with protests everywhere on social media and loud calls to boycott the Studios, then they will have proven me wrong. :)

Dan
PS. Lol. A "resistance vice admiral played by Laura Dern"? Has Laura Dern finally taken some acting lessons? If not, then I'd expect there to be some sort of reaction. Then again, it's Star Wars they're talking about, right? The special effects used to be enough to overlook all the bad acting. Maybe it's no longer enough milk to swallow the flavorless cookie.

Dan: "She went plaid!"

Saber6

You mean like this? :)

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Dan

PS. Lol. A "resistance vice admiral played by Laura Dern"? Has Laura Dern finally taken some acting lessons? If not, then I'd expect there to be some sort of reaction.

I rest my case.

She acting always oscillates between the extremely mechanical and the over-emotional. I still can't figure her out, other than to say that it's never good for whatever movie she's on.

Dan

Just reading the rants here make me wonder if there is anything the two sides will ever agree on again in my life. I remember a time in this country's history where if you collaborated with the Soviets the Right would demand a firing squad, now they call it fake news.

I remember when a POW was honored, now when one is called a loser for being captured no one on the Right says a word, even one the attack is directed against one of their own.

Doug: "I remember a time in this country's history where if you collaborated with the Soviets the Right would demand a firing squad, now they call it fake news."

Lol. That's the thing. There are no more Soviets. But ever since the collapse of the Soviets in 1991, Hollywood and the rest now suddenly see Russia as the bad guys. Before they loved the Soviets. It's like the Soviets let them down or something when they imploded, and when the people embraced Capitalism. Very weird, considering the amount of money that flows through Hollywood. :)

Dan
PS. No POW should ever feel like they failed the country. They should be honored for their service. But also, it is not a shield-all against the consequences of later actions. And I'm not talking about that one man. I'm saying in general.

Even at the time the lack of legal consequences was bad.

At this time vehicular homicide would be the minimum charge.

Chappaquiddick was a major shock in the days when the Camelot myth was still current. It took a while for the facts of the incident to be accepted and take their toll on the Kennedy mystique.

Of course, in some circles it never did.

Really too bad about Ms. Dern's lack of talent. Her Dad was pretty good.

Of course, we could say the same thing about Charlie Sheen and a host of other Hollywood nepotism children, but life is too short to list them here. I actually started a list and came up with more than 500 names before I lost interest.

Regarding the Kennedy movie, keep it. Not interested.

+6 Doug Redshirt

Dan: What movies did you watch in which Hollywood loved the Soviet Union? Are you referring to those love the Soviets movies such as Red Dawn and Rocky? Hollywood has a lot of liberal views but they also have conservative views. The studios will go with whatever makes them money as they are a capitalist endeavor.

Private Matter: "Hollywood has a lot of liberal views but they also have conservative views"

I haven't seen much (if any) of the latter in the last decade or so.

Chappaquiddick is going to be more of the former, but with an twist. They're going to try to get the public to give this particular rich kid the benefit of the doubt, but only because of his political connections.

Dan

Just off the top of my head the love story "Reds" come to mind.

Add to that anyone of the blacklist movies where the real hero is always the Hollywood big shot who stands up for the useful idiots.

Sen.Ted Kennedy *did* attempt to collaborate with the USSR to influence the outcome of a US presidential election, namely the 1984 campaign that re-elected Ronal Reagan. Kennedy secretly (and potentially illegally) contacted then Soviet leader Yuri Andropov through a KGB contact, offering a quid-pro-quo of support if the USSR would provide aid in defeating Reagan (and potentially electing Kennedy, who was still considering making a bid). link

The above is fact, not fiction.

So murder followed by treason. All hail the late not-so-great Ted Kennedy. He belongs alongside Benedict Arnold in the list of American traitors.

Dan: to be clear, I think Chappaquiddick is a poor subject for a movie, unless it seriously and evenly comes at it from the cover-up perspective as opposed to poor Teddy made a boo-boo type story. It could so easily go into very bad taste territory and quickly at that.

My personal opinion that John, Bobby, and Ted Kennedy were over-rated (although appears to have Bobby meant well). They are fine examples of the insane ability of the average American to be conned by those who have money and present a glamorous lifestyle. A large majority of Americans (and I imagine this occurs in other countries as well) don't take the time to fully understand the facts behind the person and would rather believe the image. It doesn't matter if the glitz and glamor is liberal or conservative, large elements of society fall for it, because they believe the image they want to see as opposed to the facts. We take style over substance. It really is sad if you think about it.

Parzival

The fact that mainstream news media consistently chosen to minimize the importance of what Kennedy did, and yet a few years later, has now gone into a fit over the potential collusion of a conservative tells me about everything I need to know about the current objectivity and reliability of our news media. The level of hypocrisy and manipulation of the truth has reached new heights (or is it new lows?).

So, though news media without some bias is a near impossibility, today they no longer even bother to report the news and practice journalism the way they used to at some times in the past. Now all they do is try to affect the outcome of politics and trials to fit their own partisan ideals, and so nowadays objectivity isn't even a superficial formality anymore.

As for entertainment media, they gave up the facade of fairness a long time ago. Specially in these last couple of decades. That's why I hardly ever go to the movies anymore and, when I do, I read all the reviews first so as not to waste my money on just plain propaganda that I don't subscribe to.

This movie? I can already predict what it will try to do.

Dan

Sen.Ted Kennedy *did* attempt to collaborate with the USSR to influence the outcome of a US presidential election…

What the heck does this have to do with a movie about Chappaquiddick?

Besides, the Kennedy story as reported in Forbes is not supported by the facts. Politifact has covered on more than one occasion, both times in the links below ruling it "False."

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Politifact is not the end-all of sources and has their own biases.

But that is another matter entirely.

Not seeing Chap either.

What the heck does this have to do with a movie about Chappaquiddick?

Everything since it shows just what type of individual Ted was.

His older brothers were the best Kennedy's; one died in the War, one was the President and the other would have been.

Ted will only be known for the event in this movie.

Politifact is not the end-all of sources and has their own biases.

They are certainly better referenced than Gutfeld and Limbaugh on the opposing side.

Also, a lot of virulent "Sturm und Drang" over a movie no one here has seen. Typical. To my eyes, the trailer doesn't seem the whitewash some of you are pretending it to be.

The Politifact article doesn't refute Forbes, it refutes Gutfeld, who inflated the incident to a claim that Kennedy actually *met* with the KGB. The Forbes article never states that. The gist of the Politifact article is that yes, the contact occurred, but the Reagan administration probably knew about it and considered it insignificant and routine, not treasonous. Also, the claim is that Kennedy wasn't running for president in '84 (though intended to in '88), so wasn't trying to influence the election, or at least not in his own favor. I will therefore withdraw the accusation of treason as at least unproven. So you may relax, calm in the knowledge that Senator "Teddy" Kennedy was not a traitor. Just a murderer, serial sexual abuser, and attempted gang rapist. link
You may therefore honor the man's memory as he deserves.

Last I heard Ted Kennedy was still dead…

Yes he is.