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Martin From Canada01 Dec 2017 10:35 a.m. PST

A longstanding row in animal evolution has come to a head, with a team of scientists claiming they have ended the debate over which type of creature is the sister of all other animals.

Researchers have been torn for years over whether sponges or marine invertebrates known as comb jellies were the first type of creature to branch off the evolutionary tree from the common ancestor of all animals.

Now researchers say the debate is over: the sponges have won. […]

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Martin from Canada

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2017 11:43 a.m. PST

I thoght this was all ready known?

Martin From Canada01 Dec 2017 11:59 a.m. PST

This is replication with a novel methodology.

Winston Smith01 Dec 2017 3:57 p.m. PST

… with a team of scientists claiming they have ended the debate…

Ah! A consensus!
Now, where have I heard that before? grin

Bowman01 Dec 2017 10:37 p.m. PST

Heliocentrism?

Bowman03 Dec 2017 7:54 a.m. PST

Since we are talking about the first multi-cellular eukaryotic invertebrate animals, I'm with Gunfreak. Why would one suspect the comb jellies were first?

Comb jellies are the largest eukaryotes that move by way of cilia (The cilia are arranged in rows, hence the "comb" moniker). That is already quite complicated, and something they evolved from their bacterial antecedents. They are also voracious predators, using specialized cilia in the "mouth" region to trap and "chew" their prey. Since they have a mouth, they have a simple alimentary canal.

Since they move towards their prey, they must have a simple nervous system in order to tell if they are moving in the direction of greater or lesser food density. No point just swimming randomly and hoping food is there. Also, they must have some simple buoyancy control, in addition to their cilia movement.

Compare this to sedentary, filter feeders like sponges. No movement capabilities beyond cellular growth. No organs, muscles or neurological tissues. They do have flagella which creates a bit of turbulence and drives water borne nutrients and food into small,holes called Ostia. And that is how they eat.

A side note: there is an interesting part of Richard Dawkins book, The Ancestors Tale, about the evolutionary significance of sponges.

And no, Winston. It's actually not a consensus. But this new research may move things towards a consensus. That's how science works, right?

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2017 8:03 a.m. PST

I also think sponges have fewer/less complex germ layers then comb jellies.

JSchutt03 Dec 2017 12:25 p.m. PST

Anyone who has seen the sponges in my sink would think the same thing.

Bowman03 Dec 2017 1:15 p.m. PST

What you have in your sink is only the collagenous protein skeleton of the sponge, known as spongin. Most likely they are artificial sponges made of cellulose.

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