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Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 8:13 a.m. PST

That's not a clinical term, of course. But considering his father's history,and the fact that his son had almost no contact with him,what are the possibilities?

Father described as "psychopathic", with "suicidal tendencies":

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A new account of the son's recent "mental deterioration":

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(I'm not making any claims about the veracity of these stories).

It seems to be a still-contentious subject, with limited research done. What do you think?

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 8:54 a.m. PST

The axiom, "the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree", may not be universally applicable, but it wouldn't be an axiom if there wasn't at least some truth to it.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 9:18 a.m. PST

There seems to be some correlation. From a few years back:

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Risk factors according to the Mayo Clinic:

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ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 9:47 a.m. PST

You can never know what's going on in a person's mind. A student at the university where I work jumped out of a 5th floor window yesterday and I had the bad fortune to walk by seconds after it happened. The kid was 19 and a freshman. He'd only been here for a month and things were already that bad? And no one noticed? The Las Vegas shooter assembled his arsenal, scouted out the place for his massacre and no one noticed. The human mind can be a dark and scary place.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 10:15 a.m. PST

Clearly something happened – and we may never know what really – but this guy, I've read, was squeeky clean – no police record at all, had regular work auditing defence contractors, owned a string of properties and a couple of planes. And his family didn't think he was all that interested in guns.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 10:25 a.m. PST

Gosh,Scott, I'm really sorry to hear that. Even witnessing a violent death can be traumatic.

There's a thread going about the incident on Miscellaneous:

TMP link

Here, I wanted see what the scientific aspect might suggest.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 11:11 a.m. PST

Scott, I am very sorry to hear of your experience. It was a sad end for the student and horrifying for those who inadvertently were involved. My condolences to his family.

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse04 Oct 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

Well maybe not Mental Illness but may something else.

More details are emerging, investigators say, that suggest Paddock's mental state was deteriorating in the weeks before he opened fire into a crowd of concertgoers in Las Vegas on Sunday significant weight loss, an increasingly slovenly physical appearance and an obsession with his girlfriend's ex-husband.

First – Significant Weight Loss

Could be a sign of some type of Cancer

Second – Increasingly Slovenly Physical Appearance

Show that he did not care anymore

Third – He was a numbers guy, prior Accountant and work with numbers and quite successful at it as well.

These individuals can be very good at what they do but some do tend to have a high amount of anti-social behavior.

Their brains are just wired differently, which make them smart but others do not want to be around them for long.

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse04 Oct 2017 6:16 p.m. PST

Scott,

The kid was 19 and a freshman. He'd only been here for a month and things were already that bad? And no one noticed?

Hate to say it but many individuals these days are brought up not to get involved.

Plus this student could have been a loner and this was the first time he was away from the comforts of home and he was not able to deal with this new place and the pressures that college brings.

Thing is he is not the only one and many attempt to kill themselves.

The human mind can be a dark and scary place.

Yes it can be and many individuals just are unable to deal with it.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 1:18 p.m. PST

Bowman: thanks for the links.

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse05 Oct 2017 1:54 p.m. PST

Oh and I would be checking to see if this movie played a role.

imdb.com/title/tt2140479

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 7:19 p.m. PST

How would that movie play a role? If the shooter saw it, or didn't see it, what definitive and significant thing would that tell you? I saw it. So did millions of others.

The character in the film is an accountant who kills people to protect himself. Paddock was an ex-accountant who murdered defenceless innocent people. What's the connection? Accountancy?

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse08 Oct 2017 8:04 a.m. PST

You have something better?

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2017 8:51 a.m. PST

You have something better?

Sure, my totally unprofessional opinion was that he was mentally ill.

Now how about you? You ambiguously state:

Oh and I would be checking to see if this movie played a role

without any explanation or purpose behind the "checking". When questioned, you do your usual evasion by bringing up another question.

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse08 Oct 2017 8:04 p.m. PST

No that was last thing I said.

But I really dout mental illness had any to do with this.

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