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Tango0119 Jul 2017 9:07 p.m. PST

"The idea that the universe is a simulation sounds more like the plot of "The Matrix," but it is also a legitimate scientific hypothesis. Researchers pondered the controversial notion Tuesday at the annual Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate here at the American Museum of Natural History.

Moderator Neil deGrasse Tyson, director of the museum's Hayden Planetarium, put the odds at 50-50 that our entire existence is a program on someone else's hard drive. "I think the likelihood may be very high," he said. He noted the gap between human and chimpanzee intelligence, despite the fact that we share more than 98 percent of our DNA. Somewhere out there could be a being whose intelligence is that much greater than our own. "We would be drooling, blithering idiots in their presence," he said. "If that's the case, it is easy for me to imagine that everything in our lives is just a creation of some other entity for their entertainment…"
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Cacique Caribe19 Jul 2017 9:10 p.m. PST

Lol. Sure. I say let's blow it all up and find out. :)

Dan
PS. I think it's cute how he and his groupies will consider that possibility but not a creator God.

Bowman20 Jul 2017 5:29 a.m. PST

I think it's cute how he and his groupies will consider that possibility but not a creator God.

Maybe you should read the link all the way through, Dan.

Also, how do you come to the conclusion that these scientists and philosophers that take part in a debate that Tyson moderates are his groupies?

Cacique Caribe20 Jul 2017 6:22 a.m. PST

Lol. Relax, I wasn't talking about those guys being his groupies.

Dan

Bowman20 Jul 2017 7:39 a.m. PST

I am relaxed, thanks. Hard to tell from what you wrote, especially since it was "those guys" from the debate panel doing the speculating in the first place.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP20 Jul 2017 7:46 a.m. PST

As they say, that's why everything taste like chicken.

If it is the case than the gods play some pretty stupid games.

"Zeus it's your turn".

"Allah quit screwing around with your girl friend and pay attention".

"Oh no! Buddha rambling on again about the rules not being realistic".

Great War Ace20 Jul 2017 10:19 a.m. PST

"What happens if there's a bug that crashes the entire program?"

Then "God" steps in and fixes everything that needs fixing.

Look at the "Supreme Being" (Sir Ralph Richardson) in Time Bandits: he entered, intervened and shut down everything temporarily. When asked why evil exists at all then, he said, "Something to do with free will, I believe."

In a sense, all of "creation" is simulation in the mind of the only Existence there Is. It all comes from thought carried through to a reality. And we are all about free will. The venue is infinitely variable, the minds possessing free will are equally infinite in number and variety, and we get to choose constantly forever. It must be a blast watching all of this happen forever…………………..

Great War Ace20 Jul 2017 10:31 a.m. PST

When this venue has an end will be when we develop virtual reality to such a degree of realism that we enter it indefinitely, as "gods" of our own created multiverse, and find ourselves already doing it: like completing a circle and coming up on yourself from behind, turning around (like Bowman in 2001), and finding yourself there. It must feel very odd to keep on doing this, "deja vu-like"… There is a reason why our brains "leak": and it must be necessary in order to keep us focused on NOW, and not eternally preoccupied with the past………….

Mithmee20 Jul 2017 2:35 p.m. PST

Well if we are I want some reprograming done.

Cacique Caribe20 Jul 2017 5:21 p.m. PST

Ha! So would Deja Vu simply be traces of past events that were edited out and reset, just to see if you end up making a different decision and end up with a different outcome this time around? :)

Dan

Cacique Caribe20 Jul 2017 7:08 p.m. PST

Maybe Neil is the One behind it all, and he's having a blast just messing with us.

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Great War Ace21 Jul 2017 7:35 a.m. PST

Deja vu: probably it is "reset" artifacts, and other phenomena as well. Dreams can presage waking events. And when dying, the brain goes over everything, which would make the "future" you feel like you've been there and done all of that before: which you have, you're just reviewing it all as your brain shuts down. You don't know at a given point that you're dying and reviewing, so the review feels like a repeat, or you can tell what someone is going to say, because "I'd swear that we've done all of this before." Etc.

But as we have developed computer programs that can be reset indefinitely, this is strong evidence for a cosmic level capability to "reset" and try again……….

Great War Ace21 Jul 2017 7:38 a.m. PST

Neil: where are that dude's teeth?

Bowman21 Jul 2017 10:07 a.m. PST

Deja vu: probably it is "reset" artifacts, and other phenomena as well.

Well, according to the Wachowskis. And, as you said yourself on another topic, "It's only a movie".

Neil: where are that dude's teeth?

Lol. I think he's a bruxer.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP24 Jul 2017 7:02 p.m. PST

If we are, it would explain why stuff keeps breaking down, freezing up, and generally constantly churning up ratty data.

Bowman25 Jul 2017 6:11 a.m. PST

Or that stuff just naturally breaks down. Entropy and all that.

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