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Tango0119 Jun 2017 10:22 p.m. PST

…the Earth is FLAT.

"The idea that the Earth is ‘Flat' is, in fact, a relatively new theory. In fact, before anyone came up with the idea we live on a flat plane, people knew very well the Earth was round.

Even though there are countless images of our planet, and numerous videos which have been recorded from space, there are still some who argue the Earth is in fact flat. One of them is a Ph.D. student who rocked the Arab scientific community when she presented her thesis claiming the Earth is FLAT, stationary, the center of the universe and only around 13,500 years old. Yup, you read right.

Not only did he suggest we live on a flat Earth, he also rejected scientific theories presented by Newton and Einstein, astronomical discoveries made by Copernicus and Kepler, the Big Bang theory, atmospheric and geological activity, most of modern climatology, and basically all other scientific teachings made in the past…"

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Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2017 4:59 a.m. PST

Assuming this to be true…….that website looks very woo-woo, I can just say it must be hard to be a bona fide scientist in the Arab world.

"Indeed, we find in the conclusions of the thesis clear indications of this stand and approach, expressions such as: "using physical and religious arguments", "also proving the world scale of [Noah's] flood", "proposed a new kinematic approach that conforms to the verses of the Quran", "the roles of the stars are: (1) to be ornaments of the sky; (2) to stone the devils; and (3) as signs to guide creatures in the darkness of earth"; and finally "the geo-centric model… accords with the verses of the Quran and the pronouncements of our Prophet."

Yep, I feel bad for the assessors who have to do the oral defense of her paper. What trouble could they get into?

zoneofcontrol Inactive Member20 Jun 2017 5:12 a.m. PST

Growing up in school, our classrooms walls were covered by flat maps of the Earth, sections of the Earth and individual countries.

I read lots of newspapers and magazines. These contain stories from "around" the world. But they are printed on flat paper.

When I go to the shooting range, I shoot at flat paper targets. As the Earth sits at the center of the solar system, it is often targeted by asteroids, meteors and falling stars. Therefore if my shooting targets are flat, the Earth as a target must also be flat.

Every payday I cash my check and go out drinking with my buddies. Afterwards I am flat broke until my next paycheck.

I offer all of these examples as undeniable proof that the Earth is a flat disk standing free and proud at the center of both the solar system and the universe itself.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2017 5:47 a.m. PST

I think you have added a few good points, that the PhD student could use in her oral defense. If you were her consultant you could flat out deny the rebuttals of the professors.

Personal logo Great War Ace Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2017 7:44 a.m. PST

This Phd student's gender apparently changed between one paragraph and the next. I won't take anything from such a confused person seriously………..

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2017 9:21 a.m. PST

presented her thesis after a staggering five years of work.

Um, five years of work is a lot, but hardly "staggering".

Following that link opened two web pages I didn't want. I have a policy about web sites that open unrequested tabs and windows – I ignore them. Plus, there were lot of dubious ads.

Yuck.

This whole teacup tempest distills down to "someone who you'd like to think would know better said something breathtakingly stupid", so, nothingburger.

GypsyComet20 Jun 2017 9:33 a.m. PST

A PhD in what, pray tell?

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2017 10:35 a.m. PST

This whole teacup tempest distills down to "someone who you'd like to think would know better said something breathtakingly stupid",….

No Andrew, this distills to something more ominous. From the article:

"………and finally "the geo-centric model… accords with the verses of the Quran and the pronouncements of our Prophet."

It's more than just saying something breathtakingly stupid.

Mithmee Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Jun 2017 5:56 p.m. PST

Actually, the Earth is neither:

Flat

or

Round

Since it has bumps (I.E. Mountains and Hills) & Holes (I.E. Valleys, Holes & Craters)

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2017 6:09 p.m. PST

Due to its spin, it's wider than it is tall. In other words it bulges out roughly at the equator into an oblate spheroid. But it is much closer to round than flat, so that is a false equivalency. I'll let Dr. Asimov explain it:

"……when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together."

From the Relativity of Wrong.

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Charlie 1220 Jun 2017 7:39 p.m. PST

Well, I've come across some sites touting the geocentric theory of the universe that are based solely (or near so) on the pronouncements of various medieval Popes, canonical law and biblical interpretations (while totally dismissing Kepler, Copernicus, Newton, Einstein, et al). So, we can say (with some degree of certainty) that wackatudeness is at least ecumenical in nature.

As for the erstwhile "student thesis", this is about the best response I could find (on short notice):

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Roderick Robertson Fezian20 Jun 2017 11:36 p.m. PST


No Andrew, this distills to something more ominous. From the article:

"………and finally "the geo-centric model… accords with the verses of the Quran and the pronouncements of our Prophet."

It's more than just saying something breathtakingly stupid.

I have heard Christians making pretty much the same arguments citing Biblical Chapter and Verse. are they, too, "more ominous"?

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2017 4:51 a.m. PST

I have heard Christians making pretty much the same arguments citing Biblical Chapter and Verse. are they, too, "more ominous"?

Depends. If organized religion is supporting pseudo-science and making it conform to canon and scripture, then I'd have some concerns. The "teach the controversy" movement, the Dover trial and the Texas textbook situation are good examples.

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