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ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP23 May 2016 8:29 a.m. PST

Well, we learned a lot of stuff in the latest episode. It would appear that the White Walkers were created by the elf-creatures as a defense against humans invading their territory. Apparently they have gotten out of control since then. We also saw a rather interesting causality loop where Hodor's desperate attempt to "Hold the Door" NOW fried his brain a dozen years earlier! And since Bran has already seen the moment of the White Walker's creation, and it's also been hinted that he can communicate with people in the past, will he end up preventing the elf-creatures from doing what they did to save the day? Seems a little hokey to me :)

Winston Smith23 May 2016 10:10 a.m. PST

Once you bring in time travel, the show has jumped the shark.

nazrat23 May 2016 10:17 a.m. PST

Nah, I think it was because of the close relationship between Bran and Hodor and perhaps because Bran had previously taken over Hodor's body to defend their group. It caused a link or feedbak loop that fried the big guy's brain. I found it engaging and really sad that his entire life was ruined to lead him to that grisly yet heroic end at the hands of the frozen undead.

No sharks jumped here for me-- it's frikkin' fantasy, dammit! 8)=

138SquadronRAF23 May 2016 11:17 a.m. PST

No sharks jump here either. It's what the Three Eyed Raven was warning Bran about before. Bran being dim needed it stated much more clearly. Summer's death was also heroic. As was the Elf's death.

Still really like the Yara (Asha) Greyjoy story line and the best quote of the night that summed up the whole six series so well from evil uncle Euron "Where are my niece and nephew? Let's go murder them. "

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP23 May 2016 1:58 p.m. PST

Didn't ruin it for me, but it has me a little worried. And what about the test for being king! Drowning? How many don't make it? What's the failure rate? But wow, anyone who does become king must really want it!

RavenscraftCybernetics23 May 2016 2:20 p.m. PST

The drowning isnt a test of kingship. It's a rite of passage for the Iron Born. Anyone can try it to prove they belong to the drowned god.

Winston Smith23 May 2016 2:42 p.m. PST

It's a baptism. The High Priest does a lot of drowning. He usually assists them with some rough cpr. Usually it works. grin
If the Drowned God favors you, you come back.
In the books, even Theon was drowned. In the show he was just baptized.

Winston Smith23 May 2016 2:44 p.m. PST

No one can ruin it for you Scott. We don't know either. We are out of book storyline here. And what's from the book is radically changed.

Streitax23 May 2016 8:29 p.m. PST

Rule number one for authors, once you've sold the rights you'd better keep up the pace or they'll run off on their own without you. He should have written more books. I hear he's angry with the producers, to which I say 'Tough, go take your money and dither around for another five yers writing it the way YOU wanted it.'

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2016 10:09 p.m. PST

If he card so much he wouldn't have sold out. Maybe what HBO is doing is better than what he thought of and now he's mad.

I don't think the Hodor scene jumped the shark. We will see. But i don't see how a girl pulling a sled is faster than a horde of zombies on meth. You'll have to sell me on that one. Maybe they will get eaten next week.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP24 May 2016 2:52 a.m. PST

They should have hitched the sled to the wolf!

Mr Elmo24 May 2016 12:48 p.m. PST

Once you bring in time travel

Seeing into the past is in the books so the TV series didn't make that up.

We've also knew from the books that Hodor was not a name.

haywire24 May 2016 12:57 p.m. PST

When seer magic goes bad!

You mixed your warg magic with my seer magic.
You mixed your seer magic with my warg magic.

Oh God what have we done!!!


ON a side note… I was told drowning in Salt Water was very bad… like destroys your lungs bad.

The Beast Rampant24 May 2016 10:22 p.m. PST

The HBO Euron is a huge disappointment. He needed to be proper creepy, but he's pretty nondescript. And here he is with no weird eye, no ship crewed by menacing mutes, nothing. He should have AT LEAST spilled out the tons "vote for me" treasure, since that was the proper answer to what he was doing "gallivanting" all over the world.

I can live without the magic horn and Victarion, but they dropped the ball on this one.

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP25 May 2016 5:36 p.m. PST

The first two-thirds (at least) of the episode were pretty standard fare, and then came that incredible battle and the pathos of Hodor. The battle was a real nail-biter.

So now there is only one Stark direwolf left in the world?

The council of war between Jon, Sansa and the others just seemed to much like Robb Stark's ill-fated campaign all over again.

When the latest leader of the Wildlings gave that look to Brienne and then she made a face in reaction, I just laughed so hard.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP26 May 2016 6:24 a.m. PST

And Sansa is still a twit. She should have questioned Littlefinger, confirmed that the Knights of the Vale were on their way to help, and then had Brienne kill Littlefinger. She knew the situation in the Vale. With Littlefinger out of the way she could depend their help.

And I don't think we've seen the last of Hodor. He'll be back as a snow zombie. And will the fact that Bran was able to take control of him while he was alive have any affect now that he's dead?

Tango0126 May 2016 11:37 a.m. PST

Question: to where the pirate fleet sail?…

Amicalement
Armand

Trajanus26 May 2016 2:58 p.m. PST

Personally, I'm hacked off there's only one direwolf left.

Here's hoping that as its still in the North it gets to meet Ramsey Bolton, preferably in the dark and from behind!

Trajanus26 May 2016 3:03 p.m. PST

No idea where the Ironborn Sailing Club is going but I'll be interested to see how the fleet replacement program, demanded after their departure, works out. In a place where we haven't see a tree in the last five seasons!

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