"Rejoice oh you who wish me unemployed! " Topic

For all those american who hate political science and believe I would be better off unemployed :p

Rejoice! One government at least takes the words of Flake and Coburn to heart! One goverment sticks it to the eurocentrists! Rejoice oh critical theorists! One government upholds Hayek's criticism of the social sciences! Rejoice o libertarians.

Uzbekistan. Now you can say it has precedent :p

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I can see where this could be a good thing.

Lawyers next?

First it was the political scientists, but I wasn't a political scientist.
Next they came for the Art History majors. I wasn't one but my ex girlfriend was and she never put out, so I was ok with that.

Ah, but when it hits the Chemists… wait a minute, haven't been one of them for about 30 years so… yeah, I can live with that…

I shall come and beg at your houses when President Flake outlaws political science :p

From the article:

Officials have explained the decision by stating that political science does not follow the scientific method

What a ridiculous reason, but hey, look at the country.

I don't know much about PS, but is it supposed to follow the scientific method? It's part of the Arts faculty here.

I know there has been some upheavel in Turkey, but are academics of different sorts truly becoming worried about similar?
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Tim

Seems simple enough to me. Stay out of Uzbekistan. I know a couple of guys who run a sandwich shop, and they'll tell you the same thing, but they'll point at you and laugh, too.

Ditto Tango. It depends on the department and the traditions to which the scholars belong. Technically if its Political Science we follow the social scientific method, mostly doing observational studies. Some are small-n, most are large-n (small-n work on case studies, interviews, narratives-large-n work on statistical evaluation of large datasets of information).

If it is called Goverment, or Politics, or International Relations (just), there is highly likelihood that the people working there are traditionalists who tend to work primarily with single case studies or theory. They tend to follow the social scientific method lite, or tend to adhere to softer version of the requirements of history.

Obviously its not as simple as that (for example I work in International Relations Department, but the majority of us are Political Scientists, with one Political Theorists, and one Historian), and many places may have Departments of Political Science that are totally dominated by traditionalists. There was a bad fallout over methods in the 70s and 80s which led to a lot of reshuffling.

As for Turkey, well the government can close any private university or department it wants quite easily. Harder to touch the public institutions. I do not think they would do it though. They are more interested in journalists and activists, and while many students and profs are activists or friends of activists, the crackdown tends to be light (arrest at a protest, maybe a beating) compared to what others get (jail or worse). And Turkey is still a competitive political system, so their is a limit to what can be done to people. Rule of Law is tarnished, but it still exists to a point, and the opposition is vocal and has staying power.

anyway I have a paln b if it all goes down. Beggin at Winston Smith's door :p I shall be a great beggar. Most fun to have around and sic the hounds on :D

I hate those scruffy PoliSci tramps begging at my door. They're worse than Comcast salesman and smell worse.

I hate those scruffy PoliSci tramps begging at my door. They're as irritating as Comcast salesman and smell worse.

Sir! I wear the most excellent of american old spice colognes. Otherwise what is more American then ones natural manly sweat :p

*whistling the Old Spice chantey.* ;^)

I hate those scruffy PoliSci tramps begging at my door. They're as irritating as Comcast salesman and smell worse.

Comcast salesmen aren't so bad. They're much less irritating than those damn AT&T U-verse guys. They ring my doorbell at least once a month, and they come in pairs, like Mormon missionaries (but not dressed as nicely) and Jehovah's Witnesses (but nowhere near as polite).

I trust you will have the decency to starve quietly with dignity. After all, that is the academic tradition. I know of an unheated garret in Paris that can be had for a modest sum. Shall I forward the address?

" It's part of the Arts faculty here."

Uhm, would that be 'Mystic Arts' ?

Streitax-Certainly I will do no such thing. First, I have already said my plan B is begging at Winston Smith's doorstep. Second, Paris is not to my liking.

Winston Smith,jpattern2

Having worked as one for a summer while in Grad School, I can assure you gentlemen that nothing nothing can beat cut-co salespersons for desperation, irritation, and smell then those. Especially when you have no car and have to walk all over the place :p

Lawyers next?

Next they should be first.

Oh and if this happen here many students would have to study something that could actually get them a job.

Except I have a job you person of little knowledge of these things. Most of my colleagues have one as well. So our BAs/MAs/PhDs did get us a job (whether it is the best job in the world etc, is another question). There was a major study that showed that a PolSci BA/MA Degree combo while not the greatest performing in the market was not the worst. On average the degree holders got jobs. I think it out-preformed economics or business.

Indeed the majority of the BAs from my third rate greek university have jobs. Not all of them in the related field, but a surprising number do. It might had taken a while to get them, but if you do not give up, there is a good chance.

Let us see employments currently for all my co-students from my BA years

a) Academics
b) NGOs-IGOs (Red Cross, ILO)
c) Defense Industry Analysts
d) Upper Level Civil Servants (Whether Diplomatic Corp or other body of the Civil Service)
e) Journalism
f) Financial Industry

Not bad I dare say

e)

Yep, when the manufacturer I work for needed a head Accountant, they advertised for PoliSci credentials first.

(meant in jest, of course.)