Cacique Caribe | 26 Mar 2015 11:43 a.m. PST |
According to panel "experts" on MSNBC, the messaging in that music genre is not conducive to tolerance and unity! Dan PS. Just Google news on MSNBC and Country Music. |
Winston Smith | 26 Mar 2015 12:19 p.m. PST |
MSNBC is agin' it? Well then, I guess I better stop listenin'! Not that the crap that "country " stations play today has anything to do with country. Guitars and twang. That's it. |
45thdiv | 26 Mar 2015 12:27 p.m. PST |
Yep, most country music today sounds like the old southern rock. |
enfant perdus | 26 Mar 2015 1:00 p.m. PST |
I listened to a lot of country music as a kid and it was mostly about infidelity and alcoholism. |
The Gray Ghost | 26 Mar 2015 1:06 p.m. PST |
Yep, most country music today sounds like the old southern rock. I wish it was so, old Southern rock is great, most country music songs today sound like recycled pop music and some songs actually are. They just put twangy voices in it and mention Jesus, Jones and shine a lot |
anleiher | 26 Mar 2015 3:08 p.m. PST |
I have a mental image of Johnny Cash and the Possum "debating" the current cast of . |
Gunfreak | 26 Mar 2015 3:26 p.m. PST |
Country music of the 50-70s is a different animal to now. Cash, Nelson, Kristofferson, it was good music, often critical of establishment. Not this jesus pop, false patriotism. |
tkdguy | 26 Mar 2015 3:40 p.m. PST |
Actually it was a guest on a show who made the remark. The host apologized for it a few segments later. link BTW, I never got into country music. Just not my style. |
jpattern2 | 26 Mar 2015 3:45 p.m. PST |
Gray Ghost nailed it. Today's country is most definitely *NOT* Southern rock. It's bad, formulaic pop with a few drawls and steel guitars thrown in. Remember how every disco song sounds the same? Yeah, it's like that, and equally bad. Even worse is the sub-genre dubbed bro-country: link My neighbor plays the crap on her deck whenever the weather is nice. Weep for me. So, yes, definitely stay away from today's country music, but not because of the message (if it even has any). Stay away because it's so ear-achingly bad. Now, excuse me while I listen to Ray Charles's Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music. Ah! |
The G Dog | 26 Mar 2015 4:12 p.m. PST |
I hear it's all about the bass. |
15th Hussar | 26 Mar 2015 4:36 p.m. PST |
Thanks to TKDGuy for posting what really happened, beat me to it. I never have and never will like Country Music, but I do like a handful of songs… "I'm Driving down Highway 40 in my Big Ole Pickup Truck" by Brak from Space Ghost Coast to Coast comes immediately to mind…pretty much covers everything too! |
Nashville | 26 Mar 2015 8:06 p.m. PST |
Ya'll have not heard good country music. It's. Wonderful |
Cacique Caribe | 26 Mar 2015 8:39 p.m. PST |
TKDGUY, Glad you checked what I was talking about. Though I can't say CW is one of my top music genres, I don't hate it nor do I think any less of those who prefer it or happen to play it around me. So, inevitably, there are times when I find myself listening to it and enjoying the tunes and lyrics, sometimes without even realizing it. Both new and old school. But that "guest" on the MSNBC show was completely way out of line – and apparently she's been a regular on that TV channel. She's a major magazine editor, and so was the woman sitting next to her who laughed wholeheartedly at the despicable comment. Now I would really love to hear her explain what the main message is behind today's rap. Dan |
tkdguy | 26 Mar 2015 9:26 p.m. PST |
Yes, the guest was out of line. I doubt she'll be invited back anytime soon. I doubt that MSNBC anticipated what she'd say, though. Perhaps the people who laughed won't be invited back either. No, I don't despise country music. I don't listen to it, but I'll take it over rap any day. I'm an opera fan, btw. |
GarrisonMiniatures | 27 Mar 2015 3:35 a.m. PST |
OK, I give up – what was so bad about what I can still see of Anleiher's post that warranted the DH? |
No longer can support TMP | 27 Mar 2015 6:22 a.m. PST |
5 days for mentioning a natural and normal biological function does kind of seem excessive compared to Dawnbringer's 2 days for advocating the death and destruction of an entire city. |
Oh Bugger | 27 Mar 2015 9:44 a.m. PST |
"the messaging in that music genre is not conducive to tolerance and unity!" Country music is about the human condition warts and all and in my young day often about social justice too. Pretty universal messaging as far as I can see. I was listening to Johnny Cash just last night. |
John the Greater | 27 Mar 2015 11:11 a.m. PST |
In my house Country Music is affectionately called "Lie'n, die'n and cry'n music." At least the good stuff is. |
Cacique Caribe | 27 Mar 2015 11:20 a.m. PST |
"Oh"* My "the messaging in that music genre is not conducive to tolerance and unity" was my very cleaned up paraphrasing of what that ridiculous panelist had unfairly called that entire music genre. Let me make this very clear: I DO NOT agree with her actual despicable comment, NOR do I have anything whatsoever against Country Music. But I wasn't sure if leaving a direct link to what she said would get the topic removed or not, so that was the reason why I directed you guys to Google on your own "MSNBC country music" under news. But it does seem that most of you guys need to have a direct link to fully understand what I'm objecting to. So here it goes. I just hope it doesn't prompt the powes that be to remove the entire topic as a result: EXCERPT: YouTube link Full Context: YouTube link Dan |
The Gray Ghost | 27 Mar 2015 11:29 a.m. PST |
what happened was the urbanization of Country Music fans, not into the big cities but the small towns becoming cities. |
Cacique Caribe | 27 Mar 2015 11:31 a.m. PST |
Again, to understand what this entire topic is really about, please click on the links I provided: EXCERPT: YouTube link Full Context: YouTube link Thanks, Dan |
The Gray Ghost | 27 Mar 2015 11:39 a.m. PST |
Country music of the 50-70s is a different animal to now. Cash, Nelson, Kristofferson, it was good music, often critical of establishment. Not this jesus pop, false patriotism. the difference is now Country music fans are the establishment what I object to about Jesus pop and false patriotism is these elements are just added into the song because it part of the formula I don't get the feeling that it's real to the performers. |
The Gray Ghost | 27 Mar 2015 3:36 p.m. PST |
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Cacique Caribe | 27 Mar 2015 6:03 p.m. PST |
At least none of those examples was about going out and killing Muslims: YouTube link Dan |
jpattern2 | 27 Mar 2015 7:00 p.m. PST |
Dan, just let it drop. You made your point, such as it is. Why are you posting basically the same clip over and over? It almost seems like you're just trying to stir up hatred. |
Waco Joe | 28 Mar 2015 1:46 p.m. PST |
I have moved away from the mainstream country scene and more to the Texas Country/Red Dirt country. More raw but more honest. And if you can't appreciate this: YouTube link I don't want to know ya. :-) |
2bit elroy | 28 Mar 2015 9:03 p.m. PST |
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Weasel | 29 Mar 2015 1:13 p.m. PST |
Sorry guys but someone is going to have to break it to you: Country music is friggen awful. When I'm in a store that insists on playing it, it all sounds like the same song being played over and over. I HAVE liked some bluegrass stuff, because that seems to be the subgenre where people who can play instruments and actually have something to say end up. |
jpattern2 | 29 Mar 2015 1:18 p.m. PST |
I've always loved bluegrass. It's the one country genre that's never jumped the shark, that I'm aware of. |
Weasel | 29 Mar 2015 3:36 p.m. PST |
Yah, it feels very authentic to me. Like it's the kind of stuff actual working class people would play and not some poshed up fake-cowboy dude. |
Ditto Tango 2 3 | 29 Mar 2015 4:10 p.m. PST |
Looking at what happened at Anleiher, if I had said: According to panel "experts" on FOX… I'm sure I would have been tossed into the clink. Bill, other than protecting your favourite news source, what's the purpose of the "news source rule". Please, I'd love to hear why that's there. There are loads of rules you have here that make sense. Please educate us as to the sense of this rule. Thanks. PS, country music is poart of the reason I left my first wife – she loved it. -- Tim |
Editor in Chief Bill | 29 Mar 2015 4:20 p.m. PST |
The site FAQ says: Can I question the reliability of a news source?Yes, if the criticism is fact-based and not based on politics. Saying "The National Enquirer is only a tabloid." would be OK. Saying "Don't trust The New York Times, they're so left-wing" would not be OK. TMP link The reason behind the rule is that snarky comments are often made about news organizations which people feel are biased (i.e., Fox, MSNBC, Daily Mail, Huffington Post) and these usually lead to flamewars. So such comments are not allowed on TMP. Anleiher referred to a news organization in a derogatory manner. |
Cacique Caribe | 31 Mar 2015 12:31 p.m. PST |
"Saying 'The National Enquirer is only a tabloid.' would be OK" That sounds pretty derogatory to me! Dan |
Weasel | 03 Apr 2015 10:08 a.m. PST |
When you look at the headline pages for pretty much any news source today, it's all tabloid junk. I don't know if the distinction is even meaningful any more. |
kyoteblue | 06 Apr 2015 12:54 p.m. PST |
Hell yall , you aint posted nothin bout trains or trucks or gettin drunk or Momma !!!!! Yall aint country !!! |
Old Slow Trot | 07 Apr 2015 6:53 a.m. PST |
"I was drunk the day my mama got out of prison….";^) |
lugal hdan | 10 Apr 2015 2:06 p.m. PST |
Went to picker her up in the rain? |
Last Hussar | 19 Apr 2015 6:09 a.m. PST |
Did we need a post on this? The title is enough. |
Smokey Roan | 03 Jul 2015 6:46 p.m. PST |
David Allan Coe Nuff said!
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Jemima Fawr | 04 Jul 2015 7:22 a.m. PST |
Yeah, I love bluegrass. Probably because, when you boil it down, it's largely just evolved English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish folk music. |
etotheipi | 05 Jul 2015 11:41 a.m. PST |
Sorry … which country, again? |
Weasel | 08 Jul 2015 12:13 p.m. PST |
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