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vaughan Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 3:35 a.m. PST

Not exactly triple quilted supersoft:
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RavenscraftCybernetics Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 4:12 a.m. PST

no worries on your fingers breaking through though.

kreoseus2 Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 4:52 a.m. PST

an arse like the Japanesse flag…

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2013 7:38 a.m. PST

I knew the Romans were tough and organized but this is too anal!

Garand26 Jan 2013 8:15 a.m. PST

He said it was well-known that Romans used sponges on sticks dipped in vinegar as an alternative to toilet paper…

Jeez, I think this as well as the above say more about Roman psychology than anything…

Damon.

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2013 8:30 a.m. PST

OUCH!! Sure would be tough on the 'roids!

huh?

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2013 9:19 a.m. PST

He said it was well-known that Romans used sponges on sticks dipped in vinegar as an alternative to toilet paper…

I found this statement interesting, as according to the New Testament, a stick with a sponge dipped in vinegar is what the soldiers pressed to Jesus' lips as a "drink" during the Crucifixion. Could the account be implying that the soldiers were mocking Christ with a toilet article? Certainly fits the moment.

Dropzonetoe Fezian Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 9:25 a.m. PST

I thought it was three seashells?

SECURITY MINISTER CRITTER Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 10:08 a.m. PST

Ouch!

Jemima Fawr Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 3:29 p.m. PST

Did they each have their own sponge-onna-stick? Or did they pass it on…

The Hobbybox Inactive Member26 Jan 2013 4:15 p.m. PST

Parzival,

As you stated, puts a new spin of the whole 'merciful soldier' giving Jesus a drink takes on a whole new spin.

It was a well known fact when I was doing reenactment and very interesting to see people's reactions when the subject came up.

And R Mark Davies, I'm pretty sure the sticks were communal use, unless you were wealthy.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2013 5:36 p.m. PST

The postcard with the illustration of the latrines at Housesteads on Hadrian's Wall is their most popular item in the shop !

It shows a couple of chaps from the legion sitting in the communal latrines (no signs of partitions to give privacy) having a good natter with the shared vinegar bucket and "sponge on a stick" within reach. Simple logisitcs suggests it would have been impractical for everyone to have had their own bucket and stick.

Yeah, sounds like that last drink wouldn't have been such a pleasant affair.

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2013 8:17 p.m. PST

Parzival, that's a VERY astute observation you've made! I never would have thought about that, but like "The Hobbybox" says, in light of Roman practices of hygiene, it would appear that the soldiers at Golgotha were mocking Christ.

Desert Rat26 Jan 2013 10:10 p.m. PST

"The anthropologist also cited an ancient Greek proverb which said "three stones are enough to wipe one's arse"."

One up, one down, one polish!

The Hobbybox Inactive Member27 Jan 2013 3:56 a.m. PST

"The anthropologist also cited an ancient Greek proverb which said "three stones are enough to wipe one's arse"."

One up, one down, one polish!

Desert Rat,

I LOVE that quote.
Monday at work we're having a sort of AAR regarding the test cycle we just completed. We need to make improvements in some our processes, mostly simple ones.

I am making it my mission to incorporate THAT quote into the meeting!

Wish me luck! (probably at the Job Centre afterwards, lol!)

Jemima Fawr Inactive Member27 Jan 2013 4:43 a.m. PST

'One up, one down and one polish' were the customary instructions that accompanied the three sheets of shiny toilet paper in a compo 24 hour ration pack. :o(

Rassilon Inactive Member27 Jan 2013 8:51 a.m. PST

… or perhaps they were shoved up someone's arse by a sore looser after a particularly bad game? grin

CeruLucifus27 Jan 2013 10:43 a.m. PST

Interesting article, thanks for linking.

Regarding Golgatha, in catholic school they taught us vinegar is something of a mistranslation; the soldiers at Golgotha actually gave Christ cheap wine.

Here's a web article that backs that up: link

According to that article, wine turned to vinegar has no alcohol content and was mixed with water to form a drink called Posca that was a common ration among Roman soldiers. (Nobody in the ancient world drank unmixed water, it could make you sick.) So the soldiers gave Christ some of their own rations to drink.

This is consistent with other sentences in the same scripture that the soldiers recognized Jesus wasn't a common criminal and felt empathy for him.

The sponge and the stick were a practicality. A crucified man is too high up to hold a cup to his lips.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2013 6:20 a.m. PST

The sponge and the stick were a practicality. A crucified man is too high up to hold a cup to his lips.

But the question remains what reason (other than toilet hygiene) was there for a roman soldier to be carrying around a sponge on a stick ? I'm not sure I buy the "they wore them in their hats" theory, but I'm willing to be proved wrong.

Caesar Inactive Member28 Jan 2013 8:49 a.m. PST

"And he found an image on a Greek cup of one of the stones apparently being used."


'Ambrosios, when I asked you to pick up new dinner ware for our formal affairs, you just had to go and buy the cups depicting toilet humor, didn't you? What will mother think?'

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