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Cacique Caribe02 Nov 2011 6:38 p.m. PST

Well, I guess they got the hair done right.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar

Dan
PS. I'm not really a fan of Hoover, but I wonder what sort of unbiased portrayal Hollywood could possibly make of the life and character of that man. It just cracks me up thinking about it. And it tears me up thinking how that movie will probably be the only glimpse many young ones will get.

kyoteblue02 Nov 2011 6:52 p.m. PST

Yes, but Clint Eastwood is the director and producer so I have have high hopes for it.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2011 7:08 p.m. PST

I was gob smacked by the job he did as Howard Hughes so perhaps he can pull it off. The fellow in "Public Enemies" did a great job, Billy Crudup.

15th Hussar02 Nov 2011 7:27 p.m. PST

DiCaprio has come quite a long way since "Titanic" and has proven to me that he's one of the best actors around today.

Eastwood, of course, needs no defense of his motives.

I think we're going to get a good movie and some good history (as far as is possible in Hollywood) out of this.

I think Hoover's actions and mindset still influence…infect?…the FBI (and other like agencies) to this very day.

Space Monkey02 Nov 2011 9:22 p.m. PST

Yeah, my first reaction to DiCaprio is to think of him as a 'That punk kid in Titanic'… but he's really quite a good actor, which is reflected in folks like Scorsese and Eastwood wanting to work with him.

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2011 3:30 a.m. PST

My opinion of DiCaprio's ability rose considerably after
seeing his portrayal of HH – from the teasers I've
seen, I anticipate his portrayal of Hoover will also
impress me.

John the OFM03 Nov 2011 5:01 a.m. PST

I have a cousin who is retired FBI.
He tells me that J Edgar was well hated.
He also says that if the tranvestite rumors had a shred of truth in them, that the haters would have exposed him a lonmg time ago, and with no doubt at all.

FBI/Hoover haters should bear in mind that his control was not monolithic.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian03 Nov 2011 5:33 a.m. PST

I always enjoyed the spoof of Hoover and the FBI from The President's Analyst.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian03 Nov 2011 7:53 a.m. PST

The President's Analyst

A True classic!

Pictors Studio03 Nov 2011 8:36 a.m. PST

I agree that dicaprio is one of todays best actors. I will go see it.

Mikhail Lerementov03 Nov 2011 12:36 p.m. PST

Yup. The Aviator changed my mind about DiCaprio. I had figured him for an eternal baby face who would never be anything more. The teaser has surprised me again. At this point in my life I'm not much for movies like J Edgar, but I do want to see this.

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2011 4:07 p.m. PST

I have to admit, I've always thought that DiCaprio was nothing more than a "pretty boy celebrity", and not a legitimate actor, but it looks like I'm being proven totally wrong. His role as J. Edgar Hoover is turning the corner, at least for me, to accepting him as a man who takes his craft seriously, like the actors and actresses of classic Hollywood.

As a aficionado of American History, I'll have to go and see this movie.

Terrement04 Nov 2011 8:21 a.m. PST

One of my favorite J Edgar stories was told by former F.B.I. agent G, Gordon Liddy. Way back when, there were only typewriters. JEH had a policy that any memos to him had to be on the top 2/3 of the single page, standard margins (or something like that – actual number isn't important) so that the folks in the chain of command could leave their notes in pencil in that space. JEH would mark his replies in a bright blue ink.

One agent had this paper that no matter how he word-smithed it, he couldn't get it to fit. One of the antique little old ladies in tennis shoes took pity on the poor guy and with a minor bit of editing and moving the page margins out one click in each direction, was able to get it to fit.

Paper made it up the chain with various notes and recommendations penciled in. Came out of JEH's office with " WATCH THE BORDERS" scrolled across the page.

As the paper submitted had nothing to do with the borders, the guy at the top of the food chain was confused. the question went up and down the comment chain trying to figure out what they were supposed to be watching for at the borders, and no one wanted to be the guy who went in to JEH to ask. So, additional agents were dispatched to the Mexican and Canadian border field offices. the field offices were surprised. "Why are you here?" "Directive from JEH himself – watch the borders." "What are we supposed to be watching for?" "Don't know, but if he said to do it, he must have some level of intel that prompted this." "OK, we'll probably know it when we see it."

Eventually, not having seen anything untoward at the borders, and as JEH hadn't inquired further, they returned to D.C.

Of course, JEH's comment was directed to the margins on the page being cheated out, nothing more.

JJ

Tumbleweed Supporting Member of TMP14 Nov 2011 7:43 p.m. PST

I did some extra work on the film and made the final cut as a lobbyist standing on a curb in one scene. It was a long steadicam sequence with a lot of dialogue, so it took a whole afternoon to film.

Mr. Dicaprio has had his moments on talk shows, but he was all business that day and quite professional.

Mr. Eastwood was very spry for a man in his eighties. During a break he gave everyone a laugh when he gunned it down a street in a 1931 Ford. He had an easy-going style of directing and at one point just laughed quietly when Hammer forgot a line.

The finished product had some weak points and has taken some serious hits by the reviewers, but overall I liked it.

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