"College football, Novemember's week 2" Topic

We go to UNC, and try to make up for two straight embarrassing losses to Botch Davis.

Injury situation bad, but better than the last few weeks (still, 3 total linebackers, who play 100% of the time on D…. :O ). The D looked much better against UVA (I know, awful this year, but didn't matter, we dictated the game defensively).

Canes will roll.

What other games?

GT at Duke ( significant to some, determines who wins the ACC championship)

OSU Missouri

Pitt vs Cinci (Cinci is wearing down fast. They will have to be tough to get out of undefeated.)

Who else?

PAC10 guys, care to explain your conference standings, without us needing an abacus to comprehend?

LOL at the SEC and their "who can find the weakest OOC opponent from a non BCS conference Day" (except for the Bama game, I saw all those "Georgia vs North Central South Dakota" games. Boo Hiss! And LSU not falling in the BCS rankings???? Really?

I'll be watching OSU/Iowa and Cinci/Pitt.

Acksherlee, it's WVU at Cincy this weekend (Friday night). I think Cincy survives another week.

Notre Dame goes to Pitt and loses. I hope.

Utah is the last test for TCU.

Well Oregon's Defense got exposed again. Boise was no fluke.

mjc

Where the PAC 10 is concerned right now -- get out your abacus -- IMO the Rose Bowl is up for grabs.

mjc

PAC 10 explanation: If Oregon wins the rest of their games, they win the conference (they'll have only one conference loss, everybody else will have at least 2 conference losses).

If Arizona wins the rest of their games, they win the conference (same reason as above).

If Oregon loses another conference game but beats Arizona, Oregon wins the conference, as they will be tied with 2 conference losses each and the tie-breaker in the PAC 10 is the head-to-head game.

If Arizona loses another conference game but beats Oregon, they win the conference, unless (and here's where it gets tricky):

If USC wins their last 3 games (Stanford, ucla, and Arizona) and Oregon wins 2 of their last 3 games (losing only to Arizona) and Arizona wins 2 of their last 3 games (losing only to USC) then it ends in a 3-way tie, with USC, Oregon, and Arizona each having 2 conference losses. Oregon has the tie breaker vs. USC (having beat them), but Arizona has the tie breaker vs. Oregon (same) and USC has the tie breaker vs. Arizona (same). At that point I think the conference consults the entrails of a chicken to determine the winner.

Isn't that clear and easy?

LOL Cat! Posted like a real college fan!!! :)

(I can break down every ACC contingency)

:)

Cincinnati v. Pitt is Dec. 5.

Thankls, elroy!

Thursday friday games are nice (Cinci and WVA, thank God for Cincy they aren't playing in Morgantown)

And USF vs Butgers

If USC wins their last 3 games (Stanford, ucla, and Arizona) and Oregon wins 2 of their last 3 games (losing only to Arizona) and Arizona wins 2 of their last 3 games (losing only to USC) then it ends in a 3-way tie, with USC, Oregon, and Arizona each having 2 conference losses. Oregon has the tie breaker vs. USC (having beat them), but Arizona has the tie breaker vs. Oregon (same) and USC has the tie breaker vs. Arizona (same). At that point I think the conference consults the entrails of a chicken to determine the winner.

Isn't that clear and easy?

link

b. Multiple-Team Ties.
(1) When three or more teams are tied in Conference play, if one has defeated all others, it shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If that is not the case, a comparison of the tied teams' records against the other tied teams shall be made and the team having the best record against the other tied teams shall be the Rose Bowl representative. If two or more teams are still tied after this comparison, the appropriate two-team or multiple-team tie-breaking procedures shall be repeated among those teams still under consideration.

(2) If more than two teams are still tied after the process above is completed, each remaining tied team's record against the team occupying the highest position in the final regular season standings shall be compared, with the procedure continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.

When arriving at another group of tied teams while comparing records, each team's collective record against the tied teams as a group shall be used.

If at any point in the process the multiple-team tie is reduced to two teams, the two-team tie-breaking procedure shall be applied.

If more than two teams are still tied after comparing their records all the way through the Conference standings, the team among the tied teams with the highest ranking in the final BCS standings shall be the Rose Bowl representative.

If a tie remains, the teams most recently earning Rose Bowl or Bowl Championship Series automatic selection shall be eliminated.

If I'm not mistaken, that means records against common Pac-10 opponents. With their losses against each other cancelling each other out, it comes down to the order that Washington (beat USC and Arizona) and Stanford (beat Oregon) finish in. If Stanford loses the rest of their games, and Washington wins out then by virtue of Washington's win over Stanford, Oregon is in. If Washington loses one or if Stanford wins one more then that would put Oregon out and USC beats Arizona by virtue of their head-to-head win.

That does seem kind of ass-backwards because the team with the worse loss would win the tiebreaker. USC and Arizona with wins against a higher ranked Stanford would pass Oregon who lost to Stanford a top 25 team but beat Washington a presumably unranked team which will finish in the neighborhood of 5-7 or 6-6.

Problem solved in the Pac Ten…

Well not really. If the Ducks or Arizona win out, problem solved, if not, both Stanford and Oregon State are in the mix and USC even still has a shot.

The nightmare scenario is this:

Cal beats Stanford and loses to Washington

USC wins out against UCLA and Arizona

Oregon State beats Oregon and loses to Washington State

Arizona beats Oregon and loses to USC and Arizona State

That would give us a 5 way tie (Stanford, USC, Oregon, Oregon State and Arizona) at 6-3 in the Pac 10 with all 5 teams being 2-2 versus the other teams in the tie. In which case, I think the Beavers go to the Rose Bowl, but don't quote me on that.