Editor in Chief Bill  | 24 Oct 2009 8:14 p.m. PST |
1. The Road Cormac McCarthy 2. The Bell Jar Sylvia Plath 3. Jude the Obscure Thomas Hardy 4. 1984 George Orwell 5. Atlas Shrugged Ayn Rand 6. The Grapes of Wrath John Steinbeck 7. Night Elie Wiesel 8. On the Beach Nevil Shute 9. The Bluest Eye Toni Morrison 10. Lord of the Flies William Golding link |
| Mad Dog | 24 Oct 2009 9:08 p.m. PST |
Interesting. I happen to like 1984 and The Lord of the Flies. Hated the Grapes of Wrath. Haven't read any of the rest, but I was thinking about reading the Road. I know they're for a younger crowd, but I found Old Yeller and Where the Red Fern Grows very depressing. |
| Rich Trevino | 24 Oct 2009 9:13 p.m. PST |
The Road-- at least there was the barest flame of hope at the end. |
| kyoteblue | 24 Oct 2009 9:23 p.m. PST |
I bought the road, tried to read it. Threw it away. First book I have ever done that too. |
| Atomic Floozy | 24 Oct 2009 9:30 p.m. PST |
Has Cormac McCarthey ever written anything that wasn't depressing? |
pmwalt  | 24 Oct 2009 10:12 p.m. PST |
Franz Kafka "Metamorphosis" ==> wake up as a cockoach, really upliflting. |
| Jakar Nilson | 24 Oct 2009 10:26 p.m. PST |
The Difference Engine. I found it all amounted to nothing, and then fifty years later, computers become sentient. Okayyy
Il n'y a pas de pays sans grand-père, by Roch Carrier. It's about an old Quebecker that spends his time time thinking about the same three idiotic things on his porch. His grandson is a separatist, gets arrested, and then the old guy goes psycho and attacks a bus driver. I can't believe I wasted time reading it
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| britishlinescarlet2 | 25 Oct 2009 2:25 a.m. PST |
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell
very, very depressing. Pete |
| rdjktjrfdj | 25 Oct 2009 3:05 a.m. PST |
I could not finish The Village of Stepanchikovo, and I am otherwise very resilient |
| Sue Kes | 25 Oct 2009 4:08 a.m. PST |
Any fantasy by C. J. Cherryh (not her Science Fiction, though, which I love. How can the same author write two such different styles?) Any novel where they use the word "introspective" in the blurb (at least, in my experience
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| Connard Sage | 25 Oct 2009 4:39 a.m. PST |
Just about anything by Solzhenitsyn |
| RavenscraftCybernetics | 25 Oct 2009 4:41 a.m. PST |
The sirens of titan was my first encounter with a sad book. i think it changed me. |
| Steve Johnson | 25 Oct 2009 5:57 a.m. PST |
Any of Stephen Donaldson's Thomas Covenant books. |
| Sane Max | 25 Oct 2009 6:00 a.m. PST |
The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists – Robert Tressell Lice – Blaise Cendrars All Quiet on the Western Front 1984 I made the mistake of reading a lot of Depressing, realistic stuff as an early teen, and I am firmly convinced it contributed negatively to my mental state. Aged 11 I was a straight 'A' student in everything, tolerably socialised and getting on OK. Aged 13 I was a miserable failing loner, it took me 'til I was about 17 to get out of it. Ban depressing books now! Pat |
| Connard Sage | 25 Oct 2009 6:04 a.m. PST |
I made the mistake of reading a lot of Depressing, realistic stuff as an early teen, and I am firmly convinced it contributed negatively to my mental state. Aged 11 I was a straight 'A' student in everything, tolerably socialised and getting on OK. Aged 13 I was a miserable failing loner, it took me 'til I was about 17 to get out of it. Nah, that goes with being a teenager. along with spots +1 to the Thomas Covenant series. I'd (thankfully) forgotten them. |
| Pictors Studio | 25 Oct 2009 6:13 a.m. PST |
Wuthering Heights has to be up there too. Not only is the story depressing the actual diction is depressing. I's say that Metamorphosis does take the cake though, as Vonnegut proved. I thought Atlas Shrugged was uplifting. |
| Sane Max | 25 Oct 2009 6:44 a.m. PST |
oooh lets not forget Tess of the Durbervilles and Animal Farm amd Homage to Catalonia Pat |
Jlundberg  | 25 Oct 2009 6:48 a.m. PST |
For History I would go with "The Guns of August" – so many chance to avoid cataclysm all ignored. |
| Schmitt | 25 Oct 2009 7:38 a.m. PST |
Pretty much anything by Thomas Hardy (at least the one's I read), "Johnny Got His Gun" by ??? and the Don series by Sholokhov. Rob |
John the OFM  | 25 Oct 2009 7:50 a.m. PST |
Harry Turtledove's whole series following "How Few Remain". All his characters are either malevolent or boring. |
Uesugi Kenshin  | 25 Oct 2009 9:32 a.m. PST |
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| Sane Max | 25 Oct 2009 10:04 a.m. PST |
whaaaaaa? How the hell is Watership Down depressing? are you a Lapinophobe? are you allergic to English Wildflowers? were you secretly rooting for Woundwort and his Nazi Efrafans? I mean this seriously*. How the hell can you find that book depressing? * I am allowed to be serious three times per year. This is number 2, after the Snorbens thing. Pat |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 25 Oct 2009 11:11 a.m. PST |
I've read
1984 – made no impression on me Atlas Shrugged – an enjoyable read On the Beach – depressing topic, but I don't recall the book being depressing Lord of the Flies – not exactly depressing, more like, I never want to touch that book ever again |
enfant perdus  | 25 Oct 2009 11:20 a.m. PST |
Native Son by Richard Wright |
| lugal hdan | 25 Oct 2009 11:25 a.m. PST |
Don't forget "Slaughterhouse Five". "Perdido Street Station" by China Mieville (sp?) was pretty darn depressing too, though I don't take exception to any of the titles listed by the OP. |
| mweaver | 25 Oct 2009 11:43 a.m. PST |
I have only read two on the original list (LotF and Jude the Obscure). I think I will continue to avoid the others. |
| Neotacha | 25 Oct 2009 12:18 p.m. PST |
Bits of Grapes of Wrath I rather liked; given it's a Steinbeck, I think is odd. Somehow managed to avoid Lord of the Flies in school, and see no reason to read it now. I work with a bunch of teen-aged savages; I have no need to read about them. In general, unless I have to read it for say, a class, if I find a book depressing, I dump it. Saves a lot to trouble that way. |
| Tanuki | 25 Oct 2009 1:08 p.m. PST |
Quite a recent one – Star of the Sea by Jooseph O'Connor. About a murder on a ship full of people fleeing the Irish famine, IIRC it was nothing more than misery porn. All the characters had either had a terrible life, or were awful people, or both. |
| britishlinescarlet2 | 25 Oct 2009 1:38 p.m. PST |
Crime and Punishment – Dostoevsky The House of the Dead – Dostoevsky A Hero of Our Time – Lementov Dead Souls – Gogol Actually pretty much all Russian Literature
Pete |
| Space Monkey | 25 Oct 2009 3:43 p.m. PST |
Nausea by Jean-Paul Sartre |
Parzival  | 25 Oct 2009 4:22 p.m. PST |
I've read 1984 and Lord of the Flies. I didn't hate 1984, though yes, it was depressing. I didn't exactly hate LotF, though I didn't like it either. I just cannot appreciate a mindset which is devoid of hope and treats life as devoid of meaning. Me, I choose hope, meaning, love, faith and joy. I think my choice is better. As for the others, no, haven't read them, and I'm really not drawn to them either. I did like Steinbeck's East of Eden, but I've heard enough about The Grapes of Wrath to choose to avoid it. |
McKinstry  | 25 Oct 2009 4:25 p.m. PST |
Actually pretty much all Russian Literature
Beat me to it. Brothers Karamazov is pretty grim as well and as already mentioned, anything by Solzhenitsyn. Salmon Rushdie may desrve to be on the list as well but his stuff is so fantastically unreadable I can't tell if it is depressing or simply a bad read. |
| Skeptic | 25 Oct 2009 5:13 p.m. PST |
Several books on the Holocaust, the titles of which I can't remember at the moment (read them years ago). |
| Lord Hypnogogue | 25 Oct 2009 7:02 p.m. PST |
I've read several books that have saddened me, but 1984 left me genuinely depressed. |
| Grunt1861 | 25 Oct 2009 9:14 p.m. PST |
An Oakland Raiders Program. |
| AndrewGPaul | 26 Oct 2009 2:27 a.m. PST |
I've not read anything on that list. I started The Grapes Of Wrath, but gave up before they even got to California. I read the Chronicles Of Thomas Covenant (well, the first six – not touching the most recent ones), and was waiting for something, anythihng remotely positive to happen to the title character. Nope, nothing. Miserable to the end. I know a guy who read them twice, voluntarily! |
| Photonred | 26 Oct 2009 6:07 a.m. PST |
The Pearl By Stienbeck The Sheep Look Up By Brunner I trashed this one. and the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, this one made me want to reach through the story and beat Thomas upside the head with a spiked bat. |
| Martin Rapier | 26 Oct 2009 8:22 a.m. PST |
I didn't find 1984 depressing, nor Homage to Catalonia (both essentially covering the same thing). On the Beach though, pretty grim. Of all the nukewar fiction I found that one the most disturbing. In the disturbing category is also JG Ballards 'The Wind from Nowhere' and 'Indoctrinaire' by Christopher Priest. That last one really freaked me out, but again, it is the whole cold war nuclear apocalypse thing. Strange times. 'The Sheep Looked Up' just killed me, especially as there are so many modern parallels, particularly Puritan and their 'organic' veg. 'The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists', yes, very depressing. I'm almost tempted to stick up for poor old Thomas Covenant. They weren't _that_ bad. |
| Connard Sage | 26 Oct 2009 10:12 a.m. PST |
They were Martin, they were. |
Rogzombie  | 26 Oct 2009 12:59 p.m. PST |
The Stranger-Albert Camus Dont read it if you're feeling suicidal. |
| zippyfusenet | 26 Oct 2009 2:53 p.m. PST |
J G Ballard The Terminal Beach. For decades I was fascinated by Ballard but never understood him. There was something deeply disconnected, alienated, about his fiction that spoke to me, but I couldn't quite make him out. When I read Empire of the Sun I finally got it. He's a camp survivor. |
| Dremel Man | 27 Oct 2009 6:29 a.m. PST |
Interesting that 1984 is on a few lists. I found it gripping more than depressing, and suspenseful. Of course the very end is a little depressing, but you just keep on hoping! Anyway. The Stranger – yes. please kill me now
The Unbearable Lightness of Being – ennui epitomized! – this book RUINED me at the age of 19. Hiroshima – John Hershey – a catalog of unhappy |
John the OFM  | 27 Oct 2009 7:44 p.m. PST |
Koestler's "Darkness at Noon". |
| Martin Rapier | 28 Oct 2009 7:44 a.m. PST |
"For decades I was fascinated by Ballard but never understood him." Yes, his books have a wonderful dream like quality, even if many of the dreams are actually nightmares. He always reminded me of Ray Bradbury. |
| JackWhite | 28 Oct 2009 3:17 p.m. PST |
David Copperfield. Couldn't finish it. Didn't find Grapes of Wrath or 1984 depressing. They were so well written that I was absorbed in the story. They were just two experiences that instilled in me a sense of making sure that I don't treat others cruelly. Fight injustice and exploitation. JW |
| Daffy Doug | 28 Oct 2009 5:35 p.m. PST |
What is really depressing reading is an enormous book that seems to end up with no purposes in having told its story. Virtually every bloated novel by Stephen King (The Running Man, and The Stand are the only two exceptions in the c. half dozen King novels that I read). So, Les Miserables, and War and Peace are waaay too long for what they have to say. Where a Red Fern Grows dreadfully depressing as a child (my Fourth Grade teacher read that one to his class). A Separate Peace was depressing from start to finish. Moby Dick is depressing, also for the first reason mentioned. The BIBLE is depressing with little glimmers along the way. I hate that book. (Book of Mormon, same thing only shorter.) The Ring sagas that Wagner took his operas from are uber depressing and bloated out of all proportion. You can tell the plot on a 3 by 5 card, and the repetitious details go on for pages and pages
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| Last Hussar | 29 Oct 2009 6:40 a.m. PST |
1984 Brave New World Down and Out in London and Paris. I've never read 'Atlas Shrugged' but from reviews and writings about it I can understand why two sets of people have opposite reactions to it. |