Help support TMP


"Statistics question" Topic


8 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please don't call someone a Nazi unless they really are a Nazi.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Miscellaneous Discussion Plus Board


Areas of Interest

General

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Recent Link


Featured Showcase Article


Featured Profile Article


194 hits since 19 Oct 2009
©1994-2026 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?


TMP logo

Membership

Please sign in to your membership account, or, if you are not yet a member, please sign up for your free membership account.
OldGrenadier Fezian19 Oct 2009 6:14 p.m. PST

What is the contradiction called in the following circumstance:

Player 1 has a higher batting average than Player 2 over a two-week period, but the cumulative results of Player 2 are better. In other words, Player 2 is more consistant. What is this in statistical terms?

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Oct 2009 6:31 p.m. PST

42

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Oct 2009 6:32 p.m. PST

dont mind me I am on my second bottle of wine tonight….

Mardaddy19 Oct 2009 7:05 p.m. PST

Quantitive vs qualitative?

Ack – that ain't it. Read the question over a couple more times… umm, hand-picked time-frame average vs seasonal average?

adub7420 Oct 2009 7:23 a.m. PST

hmm… Let me see if I have your question right.

Player 1, batting ninth in the order, goes to bat 10 times and gets 3 hits for a .300 average.

Player 2, batting lead off, goes to bat 15 times and gets 4 hits for a .267 average.

Player 2 has more hits than Player 1 but a lower average?

I don't know what statistics calls it, but I call it the difference between a sum and an average. And no, Player 2 is not more consistant; he simply had more opprotunities.

Streitax20 Oct 2009 12:06 p.m. PST

It's called Simpson's Paradox.

Also sprach der statistician.

StarfuryXL520 Oct 2009 9:03 p.m. PST

D'oh!

Last Hussar28 Oct 2009 4:26 a.m. PST

In Cricket your average is the total number of runs scored, divided by total number of innings- effectively very similar to baseball, as you only get one 'at bat' in any innings. However these stats can be thrown. Bear with me on this (or skip to the last para if you know cricket)

If you don't know in cricket- you don't have a diamond, instead the batter runs to and from the bowler's (=pitcher) end. Standing at the bowlers end is another batsman, who becomes 'on strike' if there is an odd number of runs (1,3,5). This means you have to have 2 batsmen in the middle at any one time. All 11 players bat, usually in order of ability, with the bowlers tending to be at 8, 9, 10 and 11 (the 'tail'). Once 10 men are out the 11th has no partner, so the innings is over, BUT the final man is not himself out. So his score is counted, but he does not get a 'wicket' against him.

So for instance
Total career runs=1000, Innings equal 50, Average= 20
If 10 of those innings he was 'Not Out' then 1000/40 =25

If a batman is never out (most likely for a lowly 10 or 11, an opener rarely 'carries his bat'), but always runs out of partners, his total would be divided by 0…

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.