"Tie Your *&^% Tie, Properly!!!!!!!!!!!" Topic

Good lord,

I was just watching a news cast and a young financial minister of a very large and important country (hope this is far enough from CA) was going on about how he and other ministers/secretaries believe there is a recovery.

HIS TIE WAS RIDICULOUS!

For someone being paid a lot of money and with an army of public image consultants probably choreographing every move he makes, why can't this guy tie his necktie properly?

Google it – tie-a-tie.net/windsor.html

Don't wear one if you can't tie it, we're not exactly in a world where ties are compulsory anymore, so it'd be no big deal if you didn't wear one.

I mean the guy looked like Tweak on Southpark link

Thank you for listening.
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Tim

Here, Here, I agree totally. I see someone on TV and their tie is not pulled tight. It makes them look the fool.

Mike

A North American country?

Well thanks for the link, Tim. The kids frequently ask me about ties (lord knows why) and since I don't wear one, I can't tie one. I'll print out the directions and keep them in my desk.

Wore one all through high school… if it wasn't properly presented, the nuns would straighten it for you (read choke you with it) and make it be redone in front of the class.

Perhaps the Tweak factor explains a lot more about the macroeconomic situation than one might otherwise assume…..

I might take exception to a full Windsor depending upon the width and material of the tie but overall, the spread of the half-assed four-in-hand needs to cease or the wearers soundly beaten.

Ties are the most ridiculous piece of clothing that a person can wear anyway. Nothing could make them look more so. If this guy is somehow wearing a tie in an inappropriate way then more power to him for managing to make something already beyond the pale stupid look even more so.

There is no reason to wear ties anymore, we have these things called buttons that will keep your shirt closed for you now.

I always use a full windsor knot – however I think that a shirt/suit combo without a tie can look very smart, particularly if the tie looks rubbish.

I never use a Windsor. Too wide and thick looking. I prefer the four-in-hand, although mine are fully-assed.

however I think that a shirt/suit combo without a tie can look very smart

"Can" being the operative word. Someone needs to tell Ahmedinajad he looks like a dork.

I'm with Pictors… ties are ridiculous… serve no purpose except as a symbolic leash.

Give it up for the Half Windsor! Woot!

Back when a coat and tie were required for men where I work, the Half Windsor was my knot of choice as it was not as bulky as the full Windsor and didn't short me on the small end of the tie. But that was years ago as my job is now 'business casual' most of the time except for Fridays and other full casual days.

There's something about being able to get dressed up to go to an event (just had that conversation last night as we went to a formal dance). With a suit, I always do a full Windsor.

Now, the real artist is one who, when wearing a tux, can actually tie the bowtie, not wear a clip-on of some kind.

Ties are the most ridiculous piece of clothing that a person can wear anyway.

I actually agree. I use to moan inwardly about this as I panicked to get my tie on as an officer cadet getting ready for inspection. I wonder what their original purpose was? Surely not to close a shirt? I believe Patton, when he took over after Kaserine Pass, insisted officers wear ties in combat.

In any event though, if you are going to wear a tie, please wear it properly, Mr Geitner!
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Tim

Hear, hear! I've always hoped he was smarter than he dressed.

Hear, hear! I've always hoped he was smarter than he dressed.

He would have to be or they'd have to drive him to the Treasury on the short bus.

jizbrand:
Now, the real artist is one who, when wearing a tux, can actually tie the bowtie

Nah, that's not hard at all…

Our prince Klaus, late husband of queen Beatrix, once got a long ovation for taking off the tie that was obviously bothering him during a speech.

Never liked the full windsor – too seventies. Don't wear them much anymore, but a suit and tie are the easiest thing to put on, wear etc. Find the wrong collar size worse than a tie – which does not have to crush one's larynx to be worn correctly. Badly fitting shoes are a worse sin.
Anyway, many women dig ties (and shoes) so men wear them if not for that reason alone. [Can be an indicator of success, power, prestige blah blah blah]. And yes, if you don't wear them correctly you look like either a bad karaoke act or a drunk frat boy – or both.

My brother always had trouble with ties. I tied one in a Windsor for him and he kept it for years, just loosening it and slipping it over his head each time.

When I've wore one,I settle for the classic 4-in-hand knot.

See! I'm not the only one that hates neckties!!!

And yes…I cannot tie a tie to save my life…the only time I've ever seen my stepfather give up on something and leave in angry tears was when he couldn't teach me to tie a necktie…I just can't do it.

That's why I have clip ons…
And I don't wear them…

Weep, gentlemen. Weep

picture

Here's a potted history

link

Worth exactly what you paid for it :)

From the link:

As well as being used as a fashion accessory, the necktie has become a sign of membership and authority. From schools and services, such as the armed forces, using them as part of a uniform to people wearing them to show they belong to a club, neckties continue to be used as a symbol of identity.

Whatever. The tie is a vestigial symbol of servitude and indentured serfdom. It represents how you are tied or yoked to your job, superior, or overseer.

Quite frankly, I suggest that the picture that makes Connard Sage want to weep shows more "identity" than if the fellow tightened his knot to look like all the other cloned "suits".

And as for how good ties look, well I suppose some slaves always manage to fall in love with their manacles and chains. It's high time the tie went the way of the powdered wig and the renaissance era Ruff collar.

Ralph

I know this guy who will automatically disqualify anybody not wearing a tie during a job interview, even though he himself almost never wears one, not even at work, except during important meetings and conducting job interviews.

In any case ties are making a comeback, as companies see this a sign of reliability etc. Especially banks with a shattered reputation.

From Connard's link:

The modern day necktie first appeared as a result of the industrial revolution in the late 19th and early 20th century. During this time there was a demand for neckwear that was practical and comfortable for everyday working life.

Eh? What is "practical" about a tie? What function does it serve?

I used to wear one to work, until they introduced official work polo shirts. Never looked back.

The full Windsor is the only correct and gentlemanly way to tie a necktie. Obviously the posters here are a rabble of slovens. Polo shirts and open collars indeed; the very thought for work is shameful (tongue in cheek).

To put this into some context, however, when my Phys. Ed. class held their class on tennis and reminded everyone to wear "appropriate attire", I was the only one to show up in boating shoes, linen pants, a striped shirt and white tie, and a Panama hat…with a wooden racket. And I wasn't asked to change, either.

i recommend a cravat. fuller, looser, easier to tie, and nowhere near as staid or restrictive.

Gaming history link.

Which army from WW2 wore ties as part of their combat dress?

Extra credit:
How would you rate their effectiveness?
Did the provision of ties improve fighting power or morale?