 Murphy  | 29 Jul 2009 7:30 p.m. PST |
Disclaimer: you know the drill…. So we have a mandatory meeting today.
And get the "suits" on the teleconference phone… Essentially they say this… "We've notices that over the last few weeks, that the people that we hired, have not advanced to the desired level of training in the amount of time that we had envisioned and this has caused some setbacks. Therefore we are setting the takeover date back to the 21st with the IT dept staying in holdover mode until the 28th…" Laymans Speak: "The people that they hired to train to do our jobs CAN'T do our jobs the way that they thought they could, and with the little training that they have given them in this little amount of time, and it's become a complete freakin' disaster. So what we need to do is to give them a couple of more weeks of training to learn to do the jobs of the people we've outsourced. Meanwhile we need to the people that we have outsourced to remain there, and we will be nice enough to keep them employed and will "officially" (more or less) take over on the 21st, but will need them there for backup to handle stuff that the others can't handle until the 28th…" The "stuff that the others can't handle" will be most of the operation. Then the HR lady gets on the phone and says "Anyone that wants to continue with this extension, I have a letter for you, but I need it back BY FRIDAY MORNING…. So they've noticed this problem for the last couple of weeks, and yet have the audacity to say "Make a decision within 24 hours"…. My supervisor has said that he honestly hopes that most of us will refuse the extension offer. I know of three people already who are going to say no…
They're tired of being treated like crap and want to move on. As I predicted, this is the first "reality step" in this outsourcing fiasoo, and right now it's following the same template… More as it happens… |
| Waco Joe | 29 Jul 2009 7:36 p.m. PST |
I'd say a 5K signing bonus might be in order right about now. |
 Doctor X  | 29 Jul 2009 7:50 p.m. PST |
The change will happen regardless of whatever the people in the department decide. If they dont feel the compensation is worth the stress and that time is worth more doing something else than the wages they would earn over that period they should leave. If their thinking is that the execs will take even a modicum of notice if they decide not to extend their employment and that they will be sending some kind of "message" by not staying on they are living in a fantasy world. They could care less. |
 John the OFM | 29 Jul 2009 8:05 p.m. PST |
If you do NOT "accept" the extension offer, how will that effect your ability to sign up for Unemployment Compensation.
Be VERY careful here. Maybe they WANT you to tell them to go  themselves and by not accepting you have quit. If you quit, you would possibly not be eligible. |
| kyoteblue | 29 Jul 2009 8:20 p.m. PST |
What John the OFM said!!! Check with your Unemployment Office !!!! |
| Alxbates | 29 Jul 2009 9:18 p.m. PST |
The stapler was a swingline… it didn't bind up as much. Or you could burn the place to the ground…. |
| Tom Bryant | 29 Jul 2009 11:11 p.m. PST |
I'd say unless you have a definite new job lined up, ride it out. A buddy of mine was in a similar predicament. His company was going to "relocate" its local manufacturing division to North Carolina. In the end somebody high up on the food chain asked themselves, "What if it doesn't work out?" So they decided to keep a core of good worker employed here. My buddy made the cut and is still employed with them. You may get lucky (or unlucky depending on your perspective) and get to keep your job, at least until you can find something better or they decide to let you go. As The Venerable OFM said, check with the Unemployment office before telling them to stick it. |
| John the Confused | 30 Jul 2009 4:55 a.m. PST |
I would suggest: 1) Take their money.
2) Hate them and everything they stand for.
3) Keep looking for a job. It is easier to get a job when you have got job. Employers look down on people without jobs and they feel they can offer them lower pay. Also, you can use your current employers facilities to look for another job. |
| Klebert L Hall | 30 Jul 2009 5:54 a.m. PST |
I would suggest:1) Take their money.
2) Hate them and everything they stand for.
3) Keep looking for a job. Good advice, also an apt description of many jobs.
-Kle. |
| Dremel Man | 30 Jul 2009 6:27 a.m. PST |
What they said… Keep working and suck it up.
Let them be the ones to intitiate the separation, not you… I have been in a takeover predicament before. While everyone else seemed in a rush to move on, my motto became:
"Every days delay is another day of pay".
….take the money… |
 Saber6  | 30 Jul 2009 8:28 a.m. PST |
Contact the Unemployment office and make sure you use the company name in discussion (possible "bending" of the law?). Ask for a bonus. Pause for their answer. Get their answer in writing. Unless you have something starting Monday, sign. |
| ming31 | 30 Jul 2009 9:53 a.m. PST |
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| The G Dog | 30 Jul 2009 1:36 p.m. PST |
Adhere to the OFM's wisdom. It sounds like a devious ploy to get you to self-terminiate and save the company the unemployment costs. Soak 'em for every dime…until you have an alternate plan in place. |
| AndrewGPaul | 30 Jul 2009 1:58 p.m. PST |
If you do NOT "accept" the extension offer, how will that effect your ability to sign up for Unemployment Compensation. Contact the Unemployment office and make sure you use the company name in discussion (possible "bending" of the law?). This may be why they only gave you 1 day to decide.  |
| John the OFM | 30 Jul 2009 4:13 p.m. PST |
Adhere to the OFM's wisdom. Which should be on TMP's masthead… |
 Parzival | 30 Jul 2009 10:23 p.m. PST |
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