"Yes, It's A Pretty Blue Button -- Oooooh!" Topic

Now, keep your hands off it without first looking to see that I'm not crouching down between the units of material that *you* sent me onto the rollers to prepare for running through the automatic feeder, in the first place.

The pretty blue button automatically activates the rollers when a unit is not in position to be put into place when the material on the unit now being run has been fully exhausted.

THAT'S WHY I TURN IT OFF WHEN I GET ONTO THE ROLLERS!

It's bad enough that you can't be bothered to walk fifteen feet to make sure I'm not down out of sight with my hands near the unit and the rollers (to be run over by your carelessness), but you don't even glance to the right to make sure I'm not STANDING THERE IN PLAIN SIGHT cutting the straps.

I don't pay any more attention to your safety meetings than you do. I know how to avoid accidents without just paying lip service to it.

Your safety meetings last forty minutes because we've got three supervisors repeating the exact same things five times each, and you're the most dangerous one out there.

While I'm on the subject, walking around and taking your hands out of your pockets just long enough to whistle at somebody and point doesn't really convey much. I don't know what you're pointing at . . . or who, for that matter.

Thank you. I feel much better now.

JW

How did he push the pretty blue button if he never removes his hands from his pockets except to whistle and point? Or do I not want to know?

There is that………..

Whatever happened to Lock Out, Tag Out?

Ever hear of lockout/tagout?
OSHA sure has.

Heh, heh. Great minds…

Back in college, I was developing the film from an X-ray diffraction. It had to run 48 hours, as I recall.

So, I am in the dark room, developing the film.
Somebody opens the door and flips the light switch on.
I scream at him, "You ing moron! Didn't you see the red light on over the door!"
"Well, yeah, but people are always leaving it on…"

LOTO was the first thing I thought of too. If you are no in position to directly control the machine with a stop or other control while you intend to be in it, Lock It Out.

Yeah, I'm one of the supervisors who is required to say the same damn thing five times right after the other two guys. Sorry we're not more interesting, but maybe some of it sinks in.

The pretty blue button told me to push it.
Im at work so I have to do what Im told.
so pretty.

By the way, Jack…
When *I* was Safety Manager at the old place, YOU are the one I would have written up, for NOT following lockout/tagout procedures.
In my safety lectures that you like to sleep through, we would have covered that quite well, and you would be given a writtten exam.
Every 6 months.

Yep, there's no such thing as repeating safety information
too many times, or too much.

I credit repetition, repetition, repetition and testing
in various ways to make sure the info got across for
not *ever* having had an accident in an area for which
I was responsible – 36 years in management, *no* accidents
at all !

Jack should be happy to still have a job, much less not being hurt.

Our folks were having trouble listening to/obeying safety rules. We fixed that by having "consequence management", which is a fancy way of saying "if you break the rules, you don't have a job".

It's amazing how folks now follow safety procedures when their job is on the line. Why they can't follow the rules when their personal safety is at risk is beyond me.

The proper way to reinforce safety training is to beat the moron who pushed the button with a club.
-Kle.

The proper way to reinforce safety training is to beat the moron who pushed the button with a club.
-Kle.

No, you beat the guy who did not lock out his machine.
I GUARANTEE that if OSHA gets wind of this "incident", the first thing they will check is to see if the "affected" employee who did not do a proper lockout was disciplined.

ANYONE doing repairs is responsible to put his padlock on the hasp.
There are NO machines that cannot be "isolated from a power source" with a lockout.

Somehow, I suspect that the guy that ran Jack through the machine violated safety procedures too. Either way, I'm glad to read that I won't be seeing photos of flat-Jack passing across my desk at work.

OSHA's number one violation is failure to keep your paperwork straight. Well, it IS a goverment institution, so that's to be expected. AND, you can be massively fined for that. No excuses.

The second category of citations AND MASSIVE FINES is improper lockout tagout procedures.
Had the machine been properly locked out, the moron could never have pushed the blue button.
If it had resulted in injury or worse, the first thing OSHA would have looked for would be:
1) A WRITTEN lockout tagout policy.
2) Evidence of it being enforced, followed and understood. Writeups for violation are good evidence. So are signed quizzes, signed "I have been instructed…" and so on.

The mere fact that Jack was in danger means that there is either no policy, or it is not enforced or followed, MASSIVE fines.
Had there been a proper policy in place, and followed, Jack would have had nothing to write about.

In other words, there is no excuse, and it is not the moron's fault.
It is either the fault of the company for having no policy for lockout, or a bad one, or it is the fault of the operator for not following proper lockout procedure.

No, you beat the guy who did not lock out his machine.

The guy who pushed the button was his boss… So, choose – lock it out, or get fired?

Once he tells you to do something on the machine, and then tries to kill you with the machine, it's time to show him that ignoring safety causes injuries. His injuries.

I know all about LO/TO, my once-and-future employer makes the gear.
-Kle.

LOTO isn't really viable for the short length of time it takes to prep the unit. I keep my eye on the unit being run and when it's complete, I step off the rollers and push *my* pretty blue button. It's my precious.

The guy is just bored. His job consists of walking around looking at people who are already doing their jobs.
I'd hated to have him as an employee. Since he thinks everyone else is trying to cheat the company, what was he like?

John, John, John, John. If I'm standing in plain sight and he is so entranced with the pretty blue button he doesn't see me, it is his fault. He isn't following the simplest practice of glancing in the direction of someone he specifically assigned to do something, much less checking to see if they're crouched behind the units of material.

Supervisors all stick together. :-)

Remember (or not), this is the same guy who cleans the waste from the exit side of the machine by walking under moving conveyer belts.

I don't do that, even when he tells me to.

They've been busted by OSHA plenty of times, according to other employees. They save so much money by not paying a liveable wage that it means nothing to them.

JW