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Mikhail Lerementov24 Oct 2008 4:18 a.m. PST

and just what does doing so do for you?
And what does it mean if you do?

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Oct 2008 4:34 a.m. PST

Yes – but it doesn't protect that much; the words and definitions aren't copyrightable (if that's not a word it should be….) but longer paragraphs would be covered. Copying a dictionary word for word would be breach of copyright, but with rewriting of any paragraphs and suchlike you could probably copy most of a dictionary legally.

Stronty Girl Fezian24 Oct 2008 5:29 a.m. PST

Yes. Some dictionary publishers put in deliberate mistakes in order to detect that sort of thing.

I don't know how obvious or big the mistakes are. Are they: "Elephant (n), a large African or Indian mammmal".

Or "Elephant (n), a small rodent, fond of cheese."

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2008 5:36 a.m. PST

"Elephant (n), a small rodent, fond of cheese."

Dang it! That's why that Carthaginian army was so cheap…

Lentulus24 Oct 2008 5:59 a.m. PST

"and just what does doing so do for you? "

Given the microscopic margins on dictionaries, probably very little.

Lentulus24 Oct 2008 6:00 a.m. PST

"put in deliberate mistakes"

Dictionary editor one: "Oh Bleeped text how did that get through final edit?

Dictionary editor two: "Let's tell the boss it was on purpose"

Whatisitgood4atwork24 Oct 2008 7:10 a.m. PST

Make that on porpoise.

Andrew Walters24 Oct 2008 8:12 a.m. PST

There's some whacky language the copyright heavyweights use wherein the "original" portion of such a work is protected by the copyright claimed in the front pages. Recall, also, that *information* can't be copyrighted.

So you can't own the definition of "byzantine" as a concept, nor can you own definitions of "byzantine" generally, but you can own *your* definition of "byzantine" as you expressed it.

Pick three dictionaries, pick three words, look up all nine definitions, I bet you see relatively little duplication.

Andrew

nycjadie24 Oct 2008 8:36 a.m. PST

You can copyright the arrangement and choice of words. It's no wonder that you hear the new dictionary terms of the year being "shizzle".

Stronty Girl Fezian25 Oct 2008 9:16 a.m. PST

There is also some (more limited) copyright protection on a specific edition of a book. So, for instance Samuel Pepys' diary is out of copyright. Thus anyone can publish an edition of it. But if I do an edition with a bright pink cover and a picture of an elephant on page 32, then those unique features are protected.

I THINK (can't recall exactly) that specific editions get copyright protection for 30 years after publication, rather than the usual 75 years after the death of the author.

GeoffQRF18 Nov 2009 2:56 p.m. PST

Some dictionary publishers put in deliberate mistakes in order to detect that sort of thing.

I haven't checked it out, but apparently the A-Z of London contains the occasional non-existent minor alley to detect those who would copy their pages without permission. Apparently the alleys change places periodically, presumably once the complaint level reaches a certain point.

Last Hussar10 Jan 2010 4:17 p.m. PST

Can you copyright a dictionary?

We'll find out when Google starts charging us by the word.

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