"Rogue credit card" Topic

Playing around with a spammer, they have now sent me a credit card name, number, CCV, etc, with a postal address in the USA.

Anyone any suggestions what I should do with this?

Just to make it VERY clear, I'm not intending to post, release or process this anywhere. However I'm guessing that this is either stolen or otherwise fraudulent, and as it has a US postal address on it I'm thinking there may be someone here with a US fraud connection who may want to follow it up.

Geoff, you might want to report it directly to the bank/institution the credit card is associated with. They'll almost certainly follow up on it if they determine it is indeed fraudulent.

Not got a bank, just a number and type of card.

Interestingly, traced the person's phone number (scary place, the internet) and tried to call, but it went to answer. Will try again later to warn that the card may be unsafe.

There you go!

Maybe you should call your local police?

I'm in the UK, the card details are in the USA. The spammer could be anywhere.

Last time I called my local police (actually, the county headquarters) about someone selling dodgy camera equipment on Ebay, they told me not to buy it. I said, "no, you're missing the point, I'm trying to check if this is stolen equipment. The guy wants me to make a transfer into his account", at which point they said "we can't do anything as he hasn't committed any crime yet".

I tried calling again later, in case it was the officer being a bit 'slow', but second one said much the same thing. I was happy to pass the details to their fraud unit to deal with. Weren't interested in taking details, following it up, nothing.

Great.

I can call the US for 1p/min, so I'll try her again and check out if she knows about it (if she's in on it, she'll try to confirm it so I go ahead), and if not I'll let her know that she needs to lock her card down before some idiot actually does run something up on it. She'll get her money back (probably) but it runs up the insurance premiums and interest rates for us all.

Consider it a bit of friendly UK-US relations :-)

..btw, this is the same one that Chortle pointed out the other day : TMP link

Geoff

Geoff, try calling the US banks and police.

Unlike 'our lot' they seem to take an active interest in crime prevention.

I don't blame our police, they've just been cut back by successive goverments until all they can deal with is the 'death and dismemberment' part of crime.

tel lthem child porno is involved and they'll get ineterpol right on it.

Yes, I was quite amazed at the attitude here. Seems you can't prevent crime any more, you have to wait until you are a victim.

She's still not in. Mind you, it's only 5pm on a Sunday there, so not surprising. (The answer message seems to indicate it's the right person)

I may have to find a trustworthy contact (ooh, just thought, got a customer with FBI connections) and pass them to him. Tried checking out the card number, but it's a bit vague which bank it is, and they probably need the card holder to call in anyway.

Meanwhile, went back to my spammer purchaser and told him I need a copy of a driving licence for security verification (quoted the EU regs on money laundering). Even offered him a discount for the return of used items (eeewwww!) as part of te EU recycling objective. Just to be extra safe, using a Gmail account now.

…and I now have his bank details… :-)

Not been able to contact the victim, so will call her local Police dept tonight and pass the info to them. Hopefully they can secure it and follow up accordingly.

He doesn't seem concerned that I just switched to a Googlemail account. Sadly he turned down my £10,000 lottery deal. Still open on the "return 150 used items for a 15% refund as part of an EU recycling initiative" though.

Hope I'm not in trouble for trolling a spammer… :-)

'they said "we can't do anything as he hasn't committed any crime yet".'

I'm fairly sure that "handling stolen goods" is still illegal.

I'm going to guess that the police didn't want to know because tracking this down is going to be a lot of paperwork…

It is. Comes under the topic of aiding, abetting, counselling or procuring a crime. But I suspect you're right, a lot of resources with little chance of a conviction.

Details passed to the local Police station, so at least the card should be secure now.

Got a passport as well now, so just reported that to the FBI.

Quite fun this – he's currently conversing with Dr Jaques Von Hamsterveil.

And I now have his bank account details, and a 'copy' of his passport for security verification purposes.

Anyone know if the Indonesian police are up to anything?