 Flashman14  | 19 Mar 2008 1:22 p.m. PST |
I submit this, not to give succor to detractors of socialized medicine, but rather to … oh just see for yourself: link |
| Jovian1 | 19 Mar 2008 1:27 p.m. PST |
Wow – talk about mix-ups you wouldn't want to have happen to you! You would think they would make sure they had the right person before they did THAT operation!!! |
| Garand | 19 Mar 2008 1:34 p.m. PST |
Well, we haven't heard back from the other woman that has an extra leg… To be fair, this is something that can happen in a free-market hospital too… Damon. |
| carne68 | 19 Mar 2008 1:47 p.m. PST |
They ripped her a new one… (you know you wanted to say it too.) |
| Augustus | 19 Mar 2008 9:46 p.m. PST |
Well, the fact that the operation went well is a good thing. People don't pay attention and that can happen anywhere, anytime. |
| (religious bigot) | 19 Mar 2008 9:51 p.m. PST |
It's all about the bottom line. |
| von Scharnhorst | 20 Mar 2008 1:25 a.m. PST |
So now you have one woman who thinks she farted and blew her leg off. |
| von Scharnhorst | 20 Mar 2008 1:31 a.m. PST |
Flashman14 I submit this, not to give succor to detractors of socialized medicine, As EVERY person in Germany MUST have private health insurance, and as MOST hospitals in Germany are private, OR University owned, then any comments re "socialized medicine" are all my arse. |
| Bombot | 20 Mar 2008 2:02 a.m. PST |
You can so nearly make a joke about someone not knowing their arse from their elbow. |
| Tea drink hazards | 20 Mar 2008 2:52 a.m. PST |
vS, to be fair to the uninitiated, the German health care system is pretty complex, and saying everything is private is too simplified and likely to mislead the US posters in particular. As you say, health care is compulsory (so that already makes it anathema to Americans who demand the freedom to be ill without any assistance); and since both employers and employees contribute, that makes it "socialism" too, as somebody else (your boss) is being forced to pay for you. Too many people can't distinguish properly between "universal" and "socialised". However, this is a grave case, and heads will roll for it. Many Americans on this board are confident that the US system is the best yet cheapest in the world and that hospitals and doctors in the US have never ever made any mistakes, ever. Malpractice? Must be a foreign, even French(!) term…  |
| Tea drink hazards | 20 Mar 2008 3:49 a.m. PST |
Incidentally, I've looked up the German articles, which provided the following details: The senior surgeon (28 years of service at this hospital) and and senior anaesthetist have both been sacked with immediate effect (in Germany a pretty catastrophic fate, probably the end of their careers). Three other people in the clinic's staff have been suspended from duty. Those involved will probably face charges for negligent bodily harm, if found guilty could face prison for up to 6 months or fines of up to 360 days' salary. If proved to have been negligent, the culprits will also be liable to the clinic's insurance company, which will in turn have to pay damages and all consequential costs for care and medical treatment for the unfortunate lady (78). The operation, incidentally, is irreversible. Hospitals and doctors making mistakes happens frequently, but rarely are cases as bad as this one, which is making very considerable waves here in Germany. |
| Company D Miniatures | 20 Mar 2008 4:57 a.m. PST |
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| Klebert L Hall | 20 Mar 2008 8:01 a.m. PST |
Bad things happen in hospitals all the time. The AMA and other medical organizations try to suppress it, but there are surprisingly gigantic numbers of hospital deaths every year, due to mistakes and 'preventable causes'. Of course, you're much better off going to a hospital when you need it, than not going.
-Kle. |
 reeves lk | 20 Mar 2008 8:36 a.m. PST |
I wonder was it pink? Really though. Why complain? You know that they are going to fix the leg. As a bonus she got new anus.  |
| reeves lk | 20 Mar 2008 8:36 a.m. PST |
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has been spending time in paradise lately.
