| Gobbo the Great | 10 Feb 2008 5:45 a.m. PST |
The question is simple. Where can I go to see pictures of MINIFIGS camels and camel riders that will fit this period. Suggestions on other companies that would produce this army? Other then Essex's double mounted camel riders, not sure I like them. Thanks |
| The Gray Ghost | 10 Feb 2008 5:58 a.m. PST |
Gripping Beast had some desert raiders that I've used from Roman to 19th C Colonial. |
| Dave Crowell | 10 Feb 2008 7:43 a.m. PST |
Peter Pig offer Tuaregs in their Ancients range, and camel riders in their Sudan range as well. I'm not sure that either will be quite what you are looking for. Colonials ranges in general provide an alternate source for Arabic types. |
IGWARG1   | 10 Feb 2008 8:11 a.m. PST |
Castaway Arts makes a range of Biblical arabs. They have loincloths and round shields. No turbans or long robes. Plenty of double mounted camel riders. |
| Gobbo the Great | 10 Feb 2008 8:17 a.m. PST |
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I am looking for 15mm. Thanks |
| Rudysnelson | 10 Feb 2008 10:37 a.m. PST |
For Pre-Islamic Arabs , I like to use the Ansar without guns from the Old Glory 15mm range. They are without a shield. The turban gives them the regional look as well. |
| aecurtis | 10 Feb 2008 11:52 a.m. PST |
A first step would be settling on what is characteristic of their appearance. Igor is on the right track there: no long robes, no turbans. I'd add: no Tuareg shields, tidjelmousts (or shoufa, for those with a fantasy bent), indigo clothing; or keffiyeh, ghutra, agal (save those for the camels), AK-47s, or Mercedes. Keep in mind that the evidence for double-mounted camels is one Assyrian relief in the BM, and a study of the incident described suggests that it was an emergency measure used by the Midianites while running away after being surprised by Assyrian cavalry. From a similar incident, we do *not* conclude that Buffalo Soldiers rode doubled all the time: link Essex's (mis)proportions have always caused me to consider them a last resort, although the one-piece camel and rider isn't bad. Most of my Midianites are Falcon, but those seem to be impossible to find these days. Chariot (now Magister Militum) also do them, as does Peter Pig. Never used Minifigs for those; sorry. David Kuijt has pictures of Falcon, Chariot, and PP on his review page: link Allen |
| Swampster | 10 Feb 2008 4:30 p.m. PST |
The Black Hat ones (in the Roman range I think) look like they pretty good. I used Old Glory ones from the Successor range. These have a simple tunic and cloak and are bare headed. They look like they're more influenced by Hellenistic dress.
The ones by Donnington are great in theory but in practice they aren't wonderful. They seem to be wearing the same sort of gear as on the Nabataean mosaic and are posed with the legs more in front than than down the sides of the hump. Unfortunately they are very small and the camels aren't wonderful. |
| aecurtis | 10 Feb 2008 5:05 p.m. PST |
Swampster's right about the Black Hat (formerly Hobbyproducts, then Gladiator; bu Mr. Ochmann) dromedarius in the Late Roman range: link If you're doing Arabs for the Hellenistic/Roman era, that opens up a whole set of possibilities for fairly generic figures in tunics and even trousers! Allen |
| Mirosav | 11 Feb 2008 8:25 a.m. PST |
The 2nd rider on the Essex camels is a separate piece, you don't have to glue him on. |
| camelspider | 11 Feb 2008 9:41 a.m. PST |
I don't think anyone really makes models that are right on for this army. As it's pretty popular in DBM, I had suggested on a few mailing lists that we try to recruit Old Glory to make it if we provide all the sources, but there wasn't much response ("people already have make-do armies"), and OG wasn't much interested either. Pity. |
| Gobbo the Great | 11 Feb 2008 9:53 a.m. PST |
Mirosav, Thank you! I did not know that part. Thank you all for your incite as well. Happy Gaming! Jeff |
| Sudwind | 11 Feb 2008 11:33 p.m. PST |
Essex does have a Pre-Islamic Arab range with the over one shoulder robe type clothing that is appropriate. Pose variety is limited, but they have it all….camels, cavalry, blades, bow and skirmish types. For more pose variety…or for figures that might be more appropriate (I am no expert), how about we join forces and use the Eureka 300 club to commission a range? I got them to do Hawaiians with help from my friends and I helped get the Mound Builder Indians and Northwest American Indian ranges done, so it does work! |
| madaxeman | 12 Feb 2008 6:36 a.m. PST |
Lancashire Games have a large number of these types of figures, in good value big mixed bags. Their camels are quite nice too |
| aecurtis | 12 Feb 2008 6:05 p.m. PST |
Robert wrote: "Essex does have a Pre-Islamic Arab range with the over one shoulder robe type clothing that is appropriate. Pose variety is limited, but they have it all….camels, cavalry, blades, bow and skirmish types." By the gumfrey, so they do! link Those are new since my Essex-buying days; new to me, at any rate. They are definitely Essex-ish in style. Add in the arab foot archers and camel archers from the Seleucid sub-range, and you'd have good variety. Allen |
