| Black Cavalier | 25 Jul 2007 1:05 p.m. PST |
What are the proper protocols for using information found on the internet to write an article? In particular, what if the info has been published in a well known wargaming journal, but the article is also posted on an associated website? Or, if a scenario written specifically for a ruleset & is posted on the publishing company's website, but you want to translate the scenario to different ruleset? I'd of course list the source of the info, but I don't know if I need to get permission to use the info since it's published, & in the latter case, taking one company's info & translating it to benefit of another company. The article would be in the other company's house publication & I don't know if I'd get any actual monetary payment for it. |
| nycjadie | 25 Jul 2007 1:24 p.m. PST |
"The article would be in the other company's house publication" What does that mean exactly? Generally, attribution of internet sources depends on how it's being used. Is it a scholarly paper, a legal memo or a newspaper article? All three have different ways to treat internet sources. |
| Black Cavalier | 25 Jul 2007 1:29 p.m. PST |
"The article would be in the other company's house publication" Meaning in one of Too Fat Lardies semi-annual holiday Specials. Not trying to denegrate their specials, I think it would be on the order of a newspaper article. It would be an army list & history, plus some scenarios (one converted from a scenario on the Flames of War site), for their I Ain't Been Shot Mum rules. |
| Schmitt | 25 Jul 2007 1:42 p.m. PST |
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aecurtis  | 25 Jul 2007 1:44 p.m. PST |
Several styles commonly used in the US are explained here, in considerable detail: link The MLA Handbook style is quite appropriate for what you propose: essentially an electronic "magazine" or occasional publication quoting an online magazine. Allen |
| Schmitt | 25 Jul 2007 1:44 p.m. PST |
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| Black Cavalier | 25 Jul 2007 2:01 p.m. PST |
Thanks, but what I was wanting to find out was if I need to get permission before using the info since it's been published & the FoW might be considered proprietary, not how to do the citation of the source. |
| Delta Mouse | 25 Jul 2007 3:54 p.m. PST |
If you cite properly you do not need to get permission. I myself like the University of Chicago style as defined by Kate Turabian. Here is a link… link DM |
| Delta Mouse | 25 Jul 2007 3:55 p.m. PST |
Unless of course you are not using it for "fair use" purposes. DM |
| MotttheHoople | 26 Jul 2007 1:28 a.m. PST |
Black Cavalier, I suspect you will need permission to use the scenario, although making clear that there will be full attribution (mentioning the rules, pointing at the website etc.) should certainly make this easier. As you may be using force lists and the like verbatim, simply citing the sources would not be sufficient under fair use rules as Delta Mouse suggests.
If you could also source the material elsewhere (e.g. if the FoW scenario is an historical battle that is detailed in other articles and books) then it may very well be possible to get away with citation and references under fair use.
Hope that helps. |
| Rudysnelson | 26 Jul 2007 6:24 p.m. PST |
The danger is citing one specific source may be that it is only a repeat and clip and paste from another website or a standard book. The key is to try to determine the original source. I never allow citations from my students from a blog or Wikipedia (a favorite of theirs due to ease of use). |
| Rudysnelson | 26 Jul 2007 6:25 p.m. PST |
Also Allen Curtis comment on MLA is a solid one for USA papers. I do not know about Europe or elsewhere. |
