"New 30mm 18th Century British from Jacdaw Miniatures" Topic

Those look great.

Do they? My first thought was that they looked rather rough. Maybe a good paint job will improve their look.

Overall, I like the poses and the proportions. The mounted officer, very cool. But man, those are some ugly faces.

Steve

In proportion, the neck of the horse looks very long. I agree, not very attractive fellows.

Now, now lets not tease the English because of their looks.

Welcome to the age of scale creep…25mm, 28mm, 30mm…

Doesn't 30mm actually predate 25mm as a popular wargaming scale?
The faces may be ugly, but my first impression was, wow! I like those.

Great looking minis. Who else makes 30mm 7YW?

>But man, those are some ugly faces.

That is why every nice girl loves a Sailor.

30mm started back in the 70s with Scruby, at least that's as far back as I remember them. Don't know why they didn't catch on.

But man, those are some ugly faces.

I blame the late great Angus McBride.

Stadden and Suren figures are 30mm, and Elite Miniatures, while advertised as 28mm, are actually 30-32mm high and fit in perfectly with these.

I clearly remember excitedly thumbing through a small book well illustrated with black and white photos showing 'Willie' figures in 1973. It was their catalogue I think as I recall the figure codes in there and descriptions, all printed on high quality shiny paper and more like a book than the usual sort of catalogue you received in the post back then from the likes of Hinchliffe etc which was usually typed and then just carbon copied and stapled together. The figures were definitely 30mm way back then and I seem to think they were mostly a Culloden range. The poses seemed so much more fluid and lifelike, more finely detailed than the other blobs that were available back then.

These are deliberately "Willie" in style as they wrere sculpted by David Wilson- and he was taught by Ted Suren. Before doing these and the Jacdaw French he di the "New Willie" range by Tradition Scandinavia- also 30mm which as other old stagers know is possibly the oldest wargaming scale- the first German flat Zinnfiguren were(more or less) 30mm and they date from the late 18th century "28mm " is a parvenu being invented by Guernsey foundry to con blokes into thinking their stuff was different from other companies. There was then an unseemly scramble to call all stuff 28mm despite the fact that the same figures had been 25mm sometimes for years…they didn't grow overnight
Back to the plot – these are designed to blend with willie stadden elite etc its a style thing .

"Hear! Hear! – mumbling, cross back benchers"
Hansett.
Who else remembers those lines from Ted Suren's early flyer… "A simple missive, swiftly penned and promptly posted…." but being Ted the script used the old form "S"?
and those marvellous diorama's he created like the charge of then Scarlet lancer's at Aliwal, or the battle of Killiecrankei now sadly hacked up and destroyed by the Sassenachs who run the Visitor Centre… "bring back ra pit n gallows" – a softer, gentler age, buy Egad Sir! they look great en masse…
Here's to you Ted, and lovely Sonya wherever you may be, and the spirit of the 19th Lancers lives on…
Au bon entendant……

Willie and Tradition figures (as well as those classic Spencer Smith figures by Holger Eriksson as featured in "The War Game" are still available from Spencer Smith at spencersmithminiatures.co.uk or direct from Tradition of London at link

Let's not also forget Frank Hammond's Minden Miniatures at mindenminis.blogspot.com . Ian Marsh of Fighting 15s also started his Huzzah 30mm range at link though family illness has prevented him getting any further than Prussian infantry so far.

@Andy -- nice to see some new additions to the panoply of 30mm. :-)

Henry
Battlegames
battlegames.co.uk

They really do have some … well … "doughy" is the adjective that comes to mind faces, but other than that they look lovely to me.

Doug

Ah yes, the Killiecrankie diorama. I got some good pictures of it in 1980, and as you say, it has been hacked up and a few figures are now shown in little peep-show boxes. My shots were 35mm slides….I will try to get them into digital format and post here on the Miniatures Page. As for the new Jackdaw figures, I love them, and I would like to get some, but they don't sell to Americans. They shove you off to Old Glory USA, but the Jackdaw figures are nowhere on their website.

I think they will add nicely to the collections of those who enjoy this style of figure.

Some like Picasso, others Rembrandt…to each their own…beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I can appreciate the stylistic decision of the sculptor to adhere to a traditional style reminiscent of the last century and millenium.

I like them and the pics on his blog really do them justice painted and unpainted.

cheers

Chris P.

Kilsyth,
if you post those photos you will be doing us all a service.
Drop me an e-mail if you like, I think I may be able to help. gungadin@pt.lu
Regards and Alba ga Bragh
C

Kilsyth I also would love to see the Killiecrankie pics.
Chokidar- more of this range soon- French Fur capped Grendiers next and when I get around to putting them in moulds Royal Eccossais and when David has finished the Black Watch. Its all go here at OGUK
Andy