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Poi00015 May 2008 2:34 a.m. PST

Blocked from seeing this from work, so I'll have a look tonight.

Will you be including rules for T28 and T35? The land battleships fascinate me. Cheiftain Models make a T28, and AGN are going to put their T35 back into production, so a rules set to use them would be funky.

Even though the tanks themselves are terrible AFVs.

Fish15 May 2008 2:44 a.m. PST

While not an expert on Winter War I found few things that struck me as odd in the list:

Winter War Finn Anti-tank Squad/shaped charges
-Can't recall these being in use, but SATCHEL charges were used in abundance.

Vickers Type E Light tank
-These hand't been purchased without TURRETS, but without armament and without driver's seat(!) Anything to save few pennies, eh?

Fokker D.XXI Monoplane fighter
Equal to the I-16 in terms of manoeuvrability
-hardly so, I-16 was a slippery one, BUT superior Finnish training and tactics often outset the disadvantages.

Bristol Bulldog Biplane fighter
-These were used only in the defence of city of Turku (located in southWESTERN Finland) against bombers. Slow Bulldogs had hard time catching even bombers. Wouldn't include this in the list as it wasn't used in the front.

Gloster Gamecock/Kukko ( remained in service until 1944.)
-IIRC these were used in training, if even that. CERTAINLY not in the front! "Remained in service" most probably means that these were finally scrapped in 1944 but doesn't mean that they were really used prior to that… So I would exclude them from the list.

Gloster Gladiator Mk II
-Has description of Gamecock. This plane was a frontline fighter.

Hurricane I fighter (They arrived just in time for the end of the Winter War. )
-Can't recall them being used in any missions as they arrived so very late. So I would exclude them from the list.

-One fighter that saw significant action during Winter War but was missing from the list was Morane Saulnier Ms 406

-Dunno how fighters work in the game but Finns didn't really use fighters to strafe enemy ground troops as it was deemed too risky for the few and irreplaceable fighters. However during the last weeks of the war when Russians began to attack over frozen Viipurinsalmi fighters were ordered to starfe nevermind the casualties.

Aliosborne15 May 2008 4:11 a.m. PST

This is good timing for me, as I have 20mm finns on eBay at mo

Cool

Oddbob200115 May 2008 1:30 p.m. PST

Ok, I'll make the following changes:

Amend description of Gladiator

Add Morane Saulnier MS 406

Amend description of the Fokker DXXI

Amend description of Vickers Six Ton

Add Landsverke 182 armoured car

Add BA-20 armoured car

Add soixante quinze.

Add one of the recoilless Franco Prussian era field guns used.

Gecoren17 May 2008 1:18 a.m. PST

No T35's in the Winter War. Maybe the odd SMK but that's another story…

T28's and T26's were certainly used.

Guy

Oddbob200117 May 2008 4:40 p.m. PST

T-28s were deployed and refitted with additional armour during the conflict.

There were no T-35s deployed in the conflict, but the T-100 and SMK prototype multi-turreted tanks were deployed, and the SMK, after it had been disabled by a Finnish mine, was mis-identified by German intelligence and designated as the T-35C.

Soviet sources confirm this, but the SMK and T-100 look quite a lot like the T-35 so misidentification is understandable.

Having said that I am tempted to include it anyway to cover their conjectural use.

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