"War of the Spanish Succession in Hard Plastic" Topic

These might very well be the very first figurs I buy from Wargames factory.

Hmmm, I may have to go there… (the period, that is).

These look very tempting. Will there be mounted as well at some point? As a matter of fact, it doesn't really matter if not since what you save by buying these would help make metal mounted affordable.

It might be the way they were painted, but they have sort of a lead soldier-ish look to them. Was that intentional?

Has WF truly completed any of its plastics army lines yet?

Size wise – they look a big 28mm?

How will they compare to say Front Rank?

Is it the photo? Painting? or the figure?
Something not quite?
Will look out for them and then make a judgement.

And combine them with their zombies sprues, and you get Marlburian zombies!

If they dont get the French infantry right why bother.

You and those darned zombies, eh Bill?

Haven't been impressed with anything they've released so far, the zulu war brits are atrocious. These don't look very impresive, will have to see them in the flesh!

I agree the paint job makes them look like old lead soldiers. The positions of the officers arms look a little stiff. None of this does the figures justice based on photos of the spurs.

Looking good! Can't wait to see how this line develops.

I know nothing about this period (although it is popular at my club)but can you really use a generic set of figures for every nationality?

It wouldn't work for Seven Years War or Napoleonic so how come it can work here?

Depends how low you set the bar; no, one figure, even with head choices, cannot cover the period. But judging by the colours, these are not meant to be historical figures. Or else St. Andrew is going to be really ticked.

Allen

1. I'd like to see some close up photos of the sprues ….not convinced by what I've seen in the photos.

2. Compatability with Front Rank is a must ….otherwise no purchase.

KW Oxford

---But judging by the colours, these are not meant to be historical figures. Or else St. Andrew is going to be really ticked.---

What do you mean?

The British colours are accurate, having the cross of Saint George and the saltire of Saint Andrew.

I agree that all WSS uniforms are not the same.

They look pretty good and the price is nothing to sneer at.
….even though some will…..

Not my period but look good to me. I've liked every set I've gotten from WF.

With so much negativity it is hard to believe these are the same figures that were so highly praised on this forum when the sprues were shown and again less than 3 days ago when the first (much better) painted samples were displayed.

I think the possibilities with these are great, first figure release for years that has prompted me to try a new period (or more accurately revisit something I gave up years ago). Take a look at the forum where the temporary nature of these pictures is discussed, they only show 14 guys out of a 36 figure box.

>>Has WF truly completed any of its plastics army lines yet?<<

Perfectly logical question. But, I guess my impression has been that the idea, initially anyway, is more to fill out in existing ranges and periods? Especially, it seems the basic raison d'être of the "Liberty and Union League"?

Well I held some of them in my hands over the weekend at game day in Brunswick Maine. Tony showed them to me and I liked them very much. I also liked the fact that the majority of the figures will come as one peice from the neck down. The gamer can choose which head to use and that will give an over all variation then there will be a number of "bits" figures so you can do your variations of each with muskets, flags, officers etc. All in I like them a lot. i will have to buy some even though I just gave up 25's for 40mm.

Chris P.

I second Tobermoray, aecurtis what is wrong with the flag? It seems to be correct for post union (St George + St Andrew) i.e. prior to the St Patrick saltire being added in 1801.

I also agree with RobH that the early painted pictures link (except for the oddly placed arms on the standard bearer) showed the figures off much better.

>>Has WF truly completed any of its plastics army lines yet?<<

Has any hard plastics company? WF have promised (generic) WSS cavalry early next year, WSS artillery seems to be on the way and there are excellent ideas from Sir William the Aged for other developments which seem to be being taken very seriously by WF.

"The British colours are accurate, having the cross of Saint George and the saltire of Saint Andrew."

A St. George's Cross on a *yellow* field, with a *yellow* cross of St. Andrew? If there4 is such an example, pray cite it.

Allen

Please link thread to the spure
Thanks

I am happy to see these make it out of the Liberty and Union league mill. I applaud letting the consumers propose products and have a hand in "art directing" them to from concept to finished product. These are a great value for money and a very versatile kit of figures. They are scaled to Perry miniatures and, by extension, some of the Foundry figures for the period. These may still be a little runty against the Front Rank figures. Then again, many things are :)

A trip to Wargames Factory company forums answers a wealth of questions. If I have to pick between them spending time making miniatures, or answering duplicate questions on TMP, I would vote they make miniatures.

It looks to me as if the particular models in the ad copy have been given a basic, serviceable, paint job and that the lighting in the photo is making everything come out a bit more yellow than it should be. I think this and the shading painted on the white cross of the King's colors is giving the otherwise workable flag an aged linen look.

Here are some other painted examples.

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I feel that the somewhat stiff look of the figures works well with the general starchiness of 18th century linear warfare. Your mileage may vary. I was not hoping for "Action Poses" in my WSS line infantry. There are enough bits in the box that you can spice things up a bit in the poses of grenadiers, ensigns and officers.

As for the cavalry, here is a forum link to the proposed cavalry sprues.

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Here is a link to an earlier proposed layout of the infantry sprue in question. There are a lot of options and even more may follow in a supplementary sprue.

wargames factory wss sprue

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I'm a little disappointed by the way these look, but only in that I think the necks look longish. In an earlier thread someone said the heads could be seated better. I hope that's the case.

So many miniatures seem to have trouble with the vertical hold. Normally this produces gnomish soldiery. I don't know just from looking at these pictures if they have giraffe neck issues.

While one can get away with a lot for figures for the WSS, the position of ammo pouches (stomach or side), belts (under or over the coat, turn backs (yes, some units had them or just the front up) shoulder tassels (by army), many different grenadier cap types, etc., make most armies very distinctive for this period. One size will not fit all.

Cannot tell from the picture (it is small), but these look to be English. Nice looking, but be aware of the differences between uniforms.

One trims the neck if one wants the heads to sit a particular way. No bid deal.

Dan

I can not say much about the historic acuracy (while our group plays WSS I only play along), but with every release their minis get better from a anatomic point of view! While I first had problems with their anatomy, I now think they are good.

Cheers,

Burkhard

"A St. George's Cross on a *yellow* field, with a *yellow* cross of St. Andrew? If there4 is such an example, pray cite it."

There might be something wrong with your monitor. Looks white (slightly off-white I suppose) to me.

Nice minis!

Thanks for the extra links Sir Samuel. I have to say they look more convincing in those paint jobs. Sort of reminds me of my first Peter Laing 15mm Marlburians in the seventies…

Far cheaper way to get into WSS. I'm in. With the available options, looks like you could make a good-size majority of your armies.

The pictures do not do the figures any favours.

Painting fairly detail mouldings as "toy soldiers" is never a good idea.