"Battlefront Announces Price Hike" Topic

Don't worry about it. Your models are very good representations of 15mm vehicles and soldiers, and 11% is not crushing.

He's given a weeks notice to get last orders in before the hike. Good PR move.

Most of us knew that this one was coming. Thanks for holding off as long as possible.

I know what I'm doing this weekend. Working on a list of everything I need and getting it sent in!

Thanks for the head's up.

Erik

I think that Battlefront makes great figures, but I have been going increasingly more often to Old Glory because of the cost.

Right now, a lot of places are selling them for 40% off, so it is possible to get 3 vehicles for less than the price of one FOW vehicle. The quality is not quite as nice, but still good.

I'm sorry, but I just can't justify spending that much more.

I misstated something in the above post. The price is not less than 1 FoW vehicle, but rather slightly more than 1.

I imagine Old Glory will be hiking their prices soon enough. My gut says after Historicon we will see a rash of price increases from many manufacturers. No one can stand in the way of the current "hyper-inflation" as CNBC is calling it.

The old glory army is looking better to me all the time.I guess it just depends on what you want. The BF price increase is not that bad though and it comes with a promise of no more increases for at least 2 years.

One good thing about WWII wargaming is that "new" units don't get invented making it necessary to buy them. My US force is finished and I just need some STUGs to complete my Germans. After that I don't see me needing to buy any more!

I agree, Mocaiv. I really don't care about FoW increases because I use all Peter Pig. Plus, I play skirmish, making it even cheaper.

My next WWII project will be Valiant plastics. A box of US, a box of German, and I am done. Toss in some nice Dragon armor as I please.

Yup, I bought some Peter Pig bits to fill in the gaps, but basically, I am done.

Wow,I must say I always thought FOW stuff was pricy as it is.

For the price of one pack of 15mm FOW figures i can geT,64-68 valiant figures,which are open to conversion and still have change from £10.00 GBP
I have dumped 3-4 companies and am just concentrating om 1-2 compaines,ie ground zero/mongrel.

Sorry Battlefront i will be buying no more:(:(.With the price of gas/electric going up,i can not budget any more money towards you:):).

We are probably going hold our prices until the end of the summer, but we are already reviewing costs

I don't usally chime in but it seems everyone is jumping on the high fuel price lets raise our prices train. I do have to say FoW stuff is the best on the market but right now $9.00-11.00 for one tank and there going to raise that? I will continue to buy because of a great discount I get from a friend but it will slow me down on future purchases. The problem with all businesses you start making nice profits and you get use to the money coming in, we all have to pay bills but 11% come on guys I'd rather have 5% now and 6% next year. This will only hurt the young kids we try to bring into the hobby.

This 5 year graph of lead prices says it all, I think:

link

Curious, how do the lead prices affect that they mainly produce in resin? :-)

Am I the only one who really hates all the "Flames of War Hobby" ?

IIRC Battlefront had a fixed US price against the Kiwi dollar – which was good when they started but recently, well. So they haven't been doing as well on the foriegn exchange lately so are increasing prices to cover what turned out to be a bad business decsion (greedy).

I'm with you Derek H, I don't do Battlefront stuff – don't like it as a game, I'm happy to send what cash I can to someone like Eureaka here in Oz.

I like some of their toys well enough. Their infantry went extremely big headed for a while and my opinion of their rules is not great, but their vehicles have always been nice.

And the whole "Flames of War Hobby" bit sticks in my craw.

I'm less bothered by it than Derek; I can appreciate (from a business standpoint) the marketing model they've gone for, even if it's not to my personal taste. As for model quality, I'm largely agreed; on the whole I don't like their infantry and buy mainly Peter Pig with occasional others, including Battlefront. BF's vehicles tend to be excellent, though, and certainly form the backbone of my collection – I suspect they'll continue to do so, price rise notwithstanding. (Especially as we in Blighty don't have anything like the Old Glory army deal to offer such a massive price gulf as seems to be the case in the USA.)

Dom.

Curious, how do the lead prices affect that they mainly produce in resin? :-)

Someone who had actually read the news item would have seen this:

Despite the cost of metal and oil – a major component of resin –

Anyway, for a competitor to respond like that is really class with a capital K.

Resin will be affected by oil prices: link

Actually, we are all affected by the rising costs, both in metal and oil. Indeed, merely the increase in petrol prices in the UK will start to have an increasing knock-on affect as it forces all the linked services to go up. When the transport costs for our raw materials go up, that will increase costs even if the metal price itself stays stable (which it isn't)

My point was that rises in lead prices won't have that much affect on resin, which is mainly linked to oil. But I think we are all aware of how oil prices are currently operating :-)

As a competitor, I could be far more mean ;-)

My point was that rises in lead prices won't have that much affect on resin, which is mainly linked to oil.

Why make such a point? The announcement didn't. It made the point that lead and oil prices will affect their prices. Their pieces often include white metal items as well.

Wasn't me who provided the graph of lead prices. Lighten up. :-)

Dom wrote:

I can appreciate (from a business standpoint) the marketing model they've gone for, even if it's not to my personal taste.

Anyone who can do good business charging wargamers over £100.00 GBP just for the rules necessary to play the Normandy campaign is good at marketing, that's for sure (especially since the rules are not even complete.

With most WWII systems you can have all the rules needed and a decent sized 15mm force for that money.

And no doubt all the FoW fans will be lining up too drop another £65.00 GBP plus on five books each for Bagration, Market Garden, Battle of the Bulge and Berlin. Then on to the Early War and the Pacific theatre.

By the Battlefront have finished it will probably be well over five hundred pounds for a complete set of the rules.

Very clever marketing indeed, assuming they can pull it off.