Mako11 | 15 Feb 2017 11:50 a.m. PST |
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Harwood Hobbies | 15 Feb 2017 12:21 p.m. PST |
I have a feeling I'll be buying lots of these… |
Geoffrey Sponge | 15 Feb 2017 12:45 p.m. PST |
The T-64s are nice. I picked up three at the York show. Five parts – Hull & runnning gear all one part, turret, gun, rear turret basket & AA mg. |
Mako11 | 15 Feb 2017 8:30 p.m. PST |
Yep, I'm gonna need quite a few too. Good to hear the hull and tread are all one piece. That will certainly make fielding them easier. |
Part time gamer | 15 Feb 2017 10:08 p.m. PST |
They look great. But a bit confused, they're listed as 10mm – 1/144 scale. Ive never done "the math", but thought 10mm was closer to 1/161. Either way they look good. If only someone actually did 144 in plastic's. Just my preference. |
GeoffQRF | 16 Feb 2017 2:02 a.m. PST |
According to the Magister Militum site: 10mm figures are roughly 1:160 scale, they should stand about 10mm tall foot to eye" 1/144 is about 12mm: link |
TimeCast | 16 Feb 2017 2:22 a.m. PST |
We went for 1/144 scale for the vehicles for several reasons, the main ones being that the vehicles will be compatible with other commercial products at the same scale (aircraft etc) and that it would be easy to convert existing scale drawings to 1/144. The models will also work well with our own scenics and buildings as well as a wide variety of N scale model railway scenery and buildings (allowing for the fact that there are no less than three "N scales" – 1/148, 1/150 and 1/160). At this scale (where 1/144 is 1mm = 5.76 inches, while 1/150 is 1mm = 6 inches)the small difference is not really a problem. Incidentally, compare any 10mm model wargame figure with an N scale model railway figure. The 10mm figures are alwasy much bigger and chunkier. The model railway figures (usually being injection moulded styrene) are much finer, slimmer and shorter. |
Risaldar Singh | 16 Feb 2017 2:27 a.m. PST |
None of the 10mm ranges have figures that are actually 10mm high. And all are far chunkier and bigger than true 1/160 figures. Not only are the actual scales all other the map, like all the wargaming figure "scales", but 10 mil traces its origins to N gauge model railroad items which are 1/160 in the US, 1:152 or 1/148 in the UK and 1/150 in Japan. Official "10mm" vehicle scales are 1/150 for Pendraken, 1/144 for Arrowhead (ex-Wargames South), 1/160 for Minifigs but in each case, you will find some models that are the same size as another company's. 1/144 vehicles look fine nect to 10mm infantry and the scale definitely makes sense given the availability of plastic AFV models. |
GeoffQRF | 16 Feb 2017 3:40 a.m. PST |
Sorry Timecast, that wasnt meant as a criticism. I suspect that 10/12mm is used pretty much interchangeably with 1:144 as 15mm is used with 1:100. As RS says, the actual scales are all over the place (mainly because many of these scales relate to model railways using different scales on the same gauge of track). Much like the 15mm/1:100 issue, you may well find that 10-12mm figures work better with 1:144 than 1:160 because the infantry are cast on small bases, then mounted on bases, making their reality 1-2mm taller anyway, so visually their head height often suits a slightly bigger vehicle anyway. What I should have added was that they are really nice looking models! |
TimeCast | 16 Feb 2017 4:25 a.m. PST |
No problem Geoff If wargamers could decide on a scale rather than a size and then stick to it (no scale creep) then life would be a lot simpler all round! :-) |
Darkest Star Games | 16 Feb 2017 12:21 p.m. PST |
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Mako11 | 16 Feb 2017 12:33 p.m. PST |
I'm under the impression Minifigs are actually larger than most, so at the 1/144th scale end of the spectrum. |