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Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2018 12:27 p.m. PST

A nice looking model. Great to get it in various scales. What does the texture on the hood/bonnet represent? Pictures I have seen show a smooth item.

leadjunkie Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2018 1:22 p.m. PST

The texture is poor quality 3D printing.

45thdiv28 Dec 2018 1:22 p.m. PST

Poor 3D printing

JimDuncanUK28 Dec 2018 1:24 p.m. PST

Just as bad as the Challenger 1 from a few days ago.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2018 1:43 p.m. PST

I think it might be even worse.

Corwin29 Dec 2018 4:34 a.m. PST

Worse for sure – out of curiosity why are we seeing so much of this rubbish on the site?.

Keith T Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Dec 2018 6:20 a.m. PST

What scale is the truck in the picture, he never seems to give any idea.
If its small say 10mm ok, but if 28mm that is very poor quality.

Corwin29 Dec 2018 7:55 a.m. PST

It does say somewhere that all display items are 15mm scale so pretty rough – printer layer thickness is not kind to wheels either.

ODGW Kenny Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Dec 2018 8:20 a.m. PST

Corwin, one persons rubbish, is another's treasure. If you don't like the product then don't buy it but to ridicule a person who is trying to add to our hobby in their own way is in poor taste.

I agree that these don't match with injection mold models or more expensive 3d print methods. But for the table top, they are fine for my games.

I am more appreciative that there is a WIDE variety and
scales of models to field on a game table.

I do not want to start a holy war of opinion on the quality of 3d printing or whether Butler's work is poor/good etc. Everyone has an option. (I've been told they are like bellybuttons…)

Just sayin…

Corwin29 Dec 2018 9:30 a.m. PST

Please note I have complimented other models without sloped surfaces and made the suggestion to avoid slopes until the printer technology is better and more available than the very high cost stuff that is the norm right now.

Don't agree it's poor taste because frankly some of the examples that have been shown are rather poor to say the least and I'm not the only one to use terms like 'abysmal' on the Challenger model thread.

LAP195429 Dec 2018 3:09 p.m. PST

Any of the products I have bought from them were fine. Need some clean up as any 3d product would. I think it may be a poor photo, not representing the final product. I would buy some for wargaming.

gunnerphil30 Dec 2018 3:11 a.m. PST

The lines do not show up once painted. BPM stuff not as sharp as resin or milder plastic. But when I think of some of the metal modes I have received, then far better. For most part are cheaper in 15mm than others. Do not know how other scales compare in price of quality.

His range includes many things not done by other. I would rather have a company of troops in the table with the correct Vehicle, than not have them or use a proxy.

d effinger30 Dec 2018 10:42 p.m. PST

Clean up? The wheels alone are near impossible to clean up. I've bought a lot of 3D resin models. None need the amount of "clean up" as these need. The ones I have bought (not from this company) need almost NO clean up. The are finely printed and that's the standard nowadays.

companycmd02 Jan 2019 8:45 a.m. PST

My opinion:

Things such as this are a representation of how 3D printing is being mis-used. The original concept of 3D printing was not for an entire fully completed product to be done, but to make COMPONENTS to be used to create plastic injection molds. E.g. what SHOULD be done is to create the model in pieces e.g. wheels separately done, hood, tail gate, side walls etc. The problem is people are trying to make a whole thing as if it was a Star Trek TNG replicator. I know many will disagree, but you have understand what the machines are meant to do vs. how they are being used. The reality of a "replicator" is not yet here because the concept of assembling matter into something from nothing is not yet here, but we keep trying to move forward. That said, images like this that show such poor results are actually detrimental to the opinion of the 3D printing. For instance, you cannot 3D print a BARREL. Why? Because barrels are just too tiny and they must be tapered. For instance, even a simple extruded brass tube is not a suitable replacement. The only way to show a gun barrel is to have an actual piece of metal because you simply cannot get away from the fact of the smoothness of the barrel being the overriding attractiveness of the thing in the first place. For instance, sure make the model of parts, but for things like the hood, simply make it from card stock and fold it up.

andysyk03 Jan 2019 4:54 a.m. PST

So you arnt able to critically review anything anymore? This is now a problem in the industry where everything is "wow" when quite often it is badly researched and poorly made. Im not just talking about 3D printing. The wargames press used to have proper reviews now it just has photo shots of new products all equally excellent. Reviewing isn't ridiculing.

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