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von Winterfeldt01 Apr 2021 4:54 a.m. PST

both look great, about horse tails, maybe a bit too short or do you want to sculpt ducked tails?

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP01 Apr 2021 12:15 p.m. PST

Knowing the horse, that guy is really big. Kerp them like AB or better a notch under to mix better with others. Your best customers are those who already have 1000s of figs.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Apr 2021 1:36 p.m. PST

Yes, I used strong line cavalry trooper doll for this Officer.
But are you sure about "really big" compared with AB?

von Winterfeldt01 Apr 2021 1:39 p.m. PST

the longer i look at those two sculpts of yours, the better I like them, I am glad I did commission them.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Apr 2021 1:53 p.m. PST

You are welcome, von Winterfeldt! :-)
Are the plume correct?
About horse tails, yes, I all horses get such tails. They looks better for me with such tails.
Also scabbard is not as long as it seems. It ends almost on leg level, following part is sprue for casting.

nsolomon9901 Apr 2021 5:11 p.m. PST

They look great Sho, you're tempting me towards a Suvorov army.

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2021 8:11 a.m. PST

He is on the big side. I remember my trauma with your Garde d'honore only one I kept, ended as a giant messenger.
Having horses around, a man on or near will rarely be so big unless a sort of old Cossack pony. As the horse is fine, the guy is big, and AB also has a pb sometimes; some guys have theirs legs dangling down far under the belly, only on donkeys will you have that. Your dolly that gets "dressed" with maybe another layer of putty might be a mite too big initially. Look at horsemen esp. Historical (ww1. You have pics) and compare relative sizes.
All this as I will again one of these days get another dose of tuperware from Estonia. The figures inside I paint, the box ends up full of berries.( local).

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Apr 2021 8:25 a.m. PST

But von Winterfeldt suggest, that riders legs MUST "dangling down far under the belly" of horse. Horses were smaller then than later at ww1.

Valmy9202 Apr 2021 8:51 a.m. PST

That last painting is compelling evidence. It fits with lots of other paintings I've seen too. Another check would be height of a man v. Horse height for various sizes of cavalry (usually in hands).
I really look forward to these and especially the continuing set part.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Apr 2021 9:59 a.m. PST

My line cavalry horses height is 150-154cm. Average height for heavy cavalry.
For light cavalry horses I will use the same dolls, but as these will be trotting, they will be lower than my standing line cavalry horses.

This heavy cavalry rider doll is 17-18mm, so big man indeed.
Light cavalry rider doll is 16mm, an average man – 170cm tall.
Suvorov figure is 15mm – 160cm tall.

von Winterfeldt02 Apr 2021 11:52 a.m. PST

a compex subject, also the sitting position was different them, quite bend knees and by that sometimes not reaching over the belly, here a contemporary gouache – which shows in my opinion quite well the trooper – horse height relationsship.

For heavy cavalry 155 cm should be a good average


Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2021 3:23 a.m. PST

I did see that they favored smaller horses as less fragile. High fast ones for Wellington types and who can have several.
But the men were also not high in the light cav.

I object a bit your pic, as to me me this horse is weird, look at his head compared to the man's. Ever met such a horse?

von Winterfeldt03 Apr 2021 4:57 a.m. PST

I am not denying that the subject – as a lot of others – is difficult – our main problem is that our mind is polluted by modern world, how big horses are there, I could go on with more pictures, here a conversion I did make from a Perry plastic hussar and using a Perry metal horse to obtain a better outlook


other pictures



another officer Sho did for me, which I like


von Winterfeldt03 Apr 2021 5:04 a.m. PST

also this officer of Sho looks nice though I would have liked the legs of the rider a tad longer, still a good impression – what would I do without my mounted battalion commanders by Sho?

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Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP03 Apr 2021 7:58 a.m. PST

Looks fine. Maybe the man is a tad too powerful, the republican one, new one.
Now I will want to start the pre naps, and read about it.
Aie aie aie….

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