|Major Bumsore||03 Jul 2012 10:52 a.m. PST|
Have these rules been republished with the permission of the original publishers (TableTop Games)
or are they just a rip-off of the TTG edition?
Also why is this publication not listed on the Hurlbat site?
|Royal Marine||03 Jul 2012 11:07 a.m. PST|
1. Probably yes, otherwise advertising them would be a big mistake.
2. Probably not, they are a re-print as stated.
3. Who knows?
Wow – yet another really positive discourse on TMP!
I remember these well with lots of fondness, thanks for the memory.
|LeonAdler ||03 Jul 2012 12:20 p.m. PST|
Blimey making an accusation of piracy with no apparent foundation is at the least really bad manners and many would say at lot worse.
The announcement makes it very clear they are a reprint of the original TTG game, why would you think this has been done without the permission of the copyright owner?
Like you Royal Marine I remember the series with great fondness and Bob Connor likewise, hes much missed.
|Major Bumsore||03 Jul 2012 12:39 p.m. PST|
Boardgamesgeek says the following about Tabletop Games:
"The company was sold June 14 2004 following the death of company principal Bob Conner to new owners. Dave Polhill formed Tabletop Games Ltd. and acquired the rights to the Tabletop Game line. The Company claimed on its website that they were unable to locate many of the authors of the games and royalty payments were not paid to the game authors in some cases after the change in ownership. This company developed a basic website which existed from 2004-2008. However, the website ceased being updated in 2006."
No mention of any acquisition of rights to the Series II games by Hurlbat.
BTW it's not an accusation just a question (read my post carefully). If this is a legit reprint then that's excellent!
|Number6||03 Jul 2012 1:14 p.m. PST|
Hurlbat Games is apparently owned by Dave Polhill, since he wrote the new forward for the rules.
It says this on their site:
"We have also begun to re-release the very popular 'micro games' from the 1970s as PDF titles on Wargames vault"
|LeonAdler ||03 Jul 2012 1:54 p.m. PST|
Well the merest hint of piracy is taken seriously in the industry, reputations are hard to rebuild, so one has to be very cautious with the language one uses. Maybe I'm over sensitive having been a victim of such piracy in the past.
| GreyONE ||03 Jul 2012 2:13 p.m. PST|
Is this similar to System 7?
|Major Bumsore||03 Jul 2012 2:14 p.m. PST|
Well the merest hint of piracy is taken seriously in the industry,
Of course, hence my initial question. Number6 has helpfully supplied the answer – thank you!
It is a pity that Mr Polhill in the shape of Hurlbat Games did not make the inheritance clear in the announcement.
Still, all is well. Welcome back, Micro Games!
|12345678 ||03 Jul 2012 2:14 p.m. PST|
This is great news! I just hope that they release the spaceships game!
Sometimes a bit of fact checking before putting finger to keyboard might be useful before virtually accusing someone of piracy;).
|LeonAdler ||03 Jul 2012 2:46 p.m. PST|
Yes I think it is, Heritage? Seem to vaguely remember it ( all my memories are vague these days
.) basically its like a board game without a board or fig gaming without the figures. Used the Ancient ones and the MTB, U boat ones a lot. Great fun.
|korsun0 ||03 Jul 2012 4:44 p.m. PST|
Loved the Ancient one and the Colonial ones! This post made me look and i still have them. As a kid I cut out extra home made counters for bigger armies and played for hours with a mate. I'm going to get these for nostalgia and to feel 30 years younger!
Edit: wonder if you could use 3mm instead of counters?
| GreyONE ||03 Jul 2012 4:55 p.m. PST|
I came across several people selling System 7 stuff on ebay and was wondering if these two games were different or the same game. Seems to be the same type of game.
I have heard of several people who mounted 6mm figs on the counters, treating them as bases.
What are the titles for the Ancient and the Colonial rules?
|korsun0 ||03 Jul 2012 6:49 p.m. PST|
@GreyOne-micro ancients (Punic wars) and micro colonial (Zulu / British). Great fun
6mm is probably better actually.
| Narratio ||03 Jul 2012 8:44 p.m. PST|
I fondly remember the MTB and Spaceship games. And for the cost, they were amazingly fun little things.
Excuse, got to spend some money
Hey! Wargame Vault! Wait up
|TKindred ||03 Jul 2012 9:59 p.m. PST|
I still have both the Micro-Mapoleonics game, and the U-boat/Convoy game unpunched and in their poly ziploc bags.
These are quite a bit easier than the System-7 game, though of a similar idea. I used to play the Micro Napoleonics game with my own counters rather than the ones in the game as I wanted some beefier ones than the thin card stock ones it came with.
We played the U-boat/Convoy one with GHQ ships and counters too. Both were (and still are quite fun and easy to learn.
| Narratio ||04 Jul 2012 11:05 p.m. PST|
Well, I downloaded this and the expansion. And yes, they're exactly the same. It's a reprint. Colours aer slightly differnt, although my age and differing printing techniques might be to blame. Rules are identica, no change.
The use of a single block to represent a whole battalion was rather daring back in the day. Now it's yet another part of the game designers tool boc
My, how times change.