| MiniatureWargaming dot com | 28 Mar 2015 7:10 a.m. PST |
I'm a fan of Iron Ivan Games, but $25 USD for a PDF? Seriously? Pass. |
| cloudcaptain | 28 Mar 2015 10:06 a.m. PST |
Still reading through mine and although a bit steep…I have big hopes for it so far. Looks like it can do generic scifi and "laser sword knights" too. |
Blount  | 28 Mar 2015 10:51 a.m. PST |
I agree with MiniatureWargaming dot com: $25 USD for a PDF? That makes it an obvious pass for me. |
| MiniatureWargaming dot com | 28 Mar 2015 11:05 a.m. PST |
Tomorrow's War Sci Fi Rules: HARDBOUND, 260 pages. $25. USD link |
| Doctor Merkury | 28 Mar 2015 2:37 p.m. PST |
Hey all! Just wanted to say thanks for the positive comments and sales we are seeing for Age of Saints! I've just added some more content, editable pdf character and vehicle sheets, to our files section on the yahoo group: link Also more content here: link And feel free to visit us on the Yahoo group or the IIG FB page: link Doc |
| Capt Flash | 28 Mar 2015 10:48 p.m. PST |
I would happily sell my very nice copy of Tomorrow's War for the $25.00 USD to use on Age Of Saints.
-Edgar |
| Buff Orpington | 29 Mar 2015 2:06 p.m. PST |
Surely it is the content that has value, not the media? We are going to have to bid farewell to paying more for the process than we do for the work. 145 pages represents a lot of work. I know this is a topic which has been discussed before and the usual outcome is that gamers don't like paying much for PDF's. I'm starting to move away from printing out copies of PDFs and just firing up my laptop or tablet whenever I need more than a QRS. |
| Grumpy Monkey | 29 Mar 2015 4:43 p.m. PST |
With you Capt Flash, if I could get 25.00 for my copy I sell it as well and get this set, |
| Capt Flash | 29 Mar 2015 5:19 p.m. PST |
Sadly I doubt I could get that from my local guys. Several bought the book and not a single one could get past the layout. |
| Weasel | 29 Mar 2015 6:09 p.m. PST |
The truth is nobody knows what a PDF is supposed to be worth. |
| Who asked this joker | 30 Mar 2015 8:09 a.m. PST |
The driving costs of at least some PDFs is the amount of artwork commissioned. For instance, one could compare this title to Song of Blades and Heroes which retails for $8 USD (or maybe only $4 USD!). But Andrea is both a clever game designer and a fantastic artist. So he is only paying for his artwork used with time…as in time to create each piece. This is a considerable advantage for discounting product prices. $25 USD does seem pretty high for a PDF but I don't know the amount of source material or anything else that goes into this product. The book looks attractive. |
| Weasel | 30 Mar 2015 5:32 p.m. PST |
Artwork (amount and quality), layout, editing, page count, utility, name of writer, name of publishing company, niche appeal and the precarious whims of an uncaring universe +/-1D6 will establish the correct pricing :) |
| McBane | 31 Mar 2015 3:22 a.m. PST |
hows the mechanics look/play? I am always a sucker for a new set of rules and one to use with my exsisting "sci fi" minis shall we say would be cool thanks |
| Stavros Banjo | 31 Mar 2015 7:31 a.m. PST |
$25.00 USD does seem a bit steep for a PDF, whatever the content. In the good ol' days when we were treated to the luxury of proper printed books then that sort of price could be justified. But seriously, $25.00 USD for a digital file? Sorry, but it seems that as printed products go into decline then companies are upping the price for the PDF's rather than passing on the production savings to us mere mortals. Yes, I'm old-fashioned & stuck in my ways, so have no interest in any of these new-fangled 'PDF only' rules anyway – certainly NOT at that sort of price!!! |
| Doctor Merkury | 31 Mar 2015 9:09 a.m. PST |
Mechanics of the game are very similar to DH, players roll for Initiative, draw Host Talent Cards if they are fielding a Host user, then take turns Activating their Groups inwhich they move or fire or charge into melee. Player build their force with points and archetype templates. Forces are roughly 30 models plus vehicles led by a Leader Character and possibly a Companion Character. Leaders and Companions have multiple points of Fate and roll on Epic Wounds tables for damage, Minions have a single point of Fate and when reduced to Zero Fate are removed from play. Weapons and armor are based in 4 categories, Kinetic, Beam, Catalyst and Arkane and have different rules that govern them. Vehicles and Characters have abilities and upgrades that can be purchased and built off of their templates. Leader and Companion Characters can also have Relics that add to their gear. Games usually run about 2 hours in length. Hope that helps! Doc |
| McBane | 31 Mar 2015 9:28 a.m. PST |
never playing DH it gives me some info ;-P
thanks… assuming I pick a human with a "beam" and lt armor is worth (X)points and a green skinned "tough" alien with a kinetic weapon is worth (Y)points kinda thing? |
| Doctor Merkury | 31 Mar 2015 11:30 a.m. PST |
Similar, A player could choose to build off of the Civil Guard template who would be the planetary security force, this has a base points cost for the stats. Next they would choose weapons, armor and gear adding these points to the base point cost. Lastly they would purchase Abilities, like wings or excellent at melee etc. This would just be for a Minion, basic Character. Personalities like Leaders and Companions have access to more Abilities and Relics for more points. |
goes to sea with the Terrain Mat.
