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BobSlaughter writes:

Hexxenhammer said:
"Rob, that's not quite right. It's by product line. You can have OGL and 4e products, but you couldn't have say, a 3.5 Freeport and a 4e Freeport product, or do a dual statted product."

Hmm, from what I've heard from the Paizo folks (CEO Lisa Stevens and team; I'm a potential Pathfinder customer), plus what I read into Chris Pramas' message, it's all or nothing, not by line. Or at the least, sufficiently unclear that no one is willing to risk their company on it.

With a license that can't be reversed by the signee but can be terminated without notice by WotC/Hasbro, that's way too much risk.


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Elchimpster reports this announcement by Green Ronin:

I know a lot of fans have been waiting to find out if Green Ronin is going to support 4th Edition Dungeons & Dragons, and it's a fair question. Green Ronin's second product ever was Death in Freeport, an adventure for 3rd Edition that debuted the same day as the Player's Handbook almost eight years ago. We went on to do quite a lot of 3E support, ending only a couple of months back with the d20 Freeport Companion. Now Wizards of the Coast is terminating the d20 license and offering a different way to support the new edition of D&D. It's called the Game System License, and we waited from August of last year until June of this year to see it. We've spent the last few weeks reviewing the license and discussing it internally, and we have come to a consensus.

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Green Ronin will not be signing the Game System License (GSL) at this time.

We plan to do one product in support of 4E: the Green Ronin Character Record Folio. This will be an update of the d20 System Character Record Folio, and we'll be publishing it under the Open Game License (OGL).

Other than that, we'll be giving our full attention to our own game lines: Mutants & Masterminds, A Song of Ice and Fire Roleplaying, True20 Adventure Roleplaying, and Freeport: The City of Adventure.

We had hoped to include 4E support in our plans, but the terms of the GSL are too one-sided as they stand. We certainly do not blame Wizards of the Coast for wanting to defend their intellectual property and take more control over the type of support products D&D receives. We do not, however, feel that this license treats third-party publishers as valued partners. Under its terms, WotC could frivolously sue a signatory for supposed violations of the GSL, lose the actual court case, and still ruin the winning company because the license specifies that the signatory has to pay WotC's legal fees. Also, the GSL can be changed at any time, and WotC is not legally required to so much as inform its licensees.

Let me be clear in stating that I don't think that the people in charge of WotC currently are just waiting to attack companies with frivolous lawsuits. Once you sign the GSL, though, you open yourself up to that at any point in the future. Who knows when new people will take over the D&D brand, and who can say what their vision will be? Who knows when the political winds at WotC will change again and things will get even more restrictive? We do not want to operate under such a cloud moving ahead, so that's why we won't be signing the GSL.

This means the Green Ronin Character Record Folio is the only 4E compatible product you'll be seeing from us this year and likely for 2009 as well. Perhaps WotC will revise the GSL in the positive way, but we cannot build our business on maybes. We know this will disappoint those of our fans who have embraced 4E and we're sorry about that. We have to make the best business decision for Green Ronin's future, and right now this is it.

Thank you for your continued support.

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