Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 11:19 a.m. PST |
What do you envision scavengers using for living quarters above ground? Buses? link Truck containers? TMP link Any other suggestions? Thanks. CC |
Mugwump | 10 Feb 2007 11:30 a.m. PST |
Years ago, when I went into Mexico for a geology class from University of Houston; the first five miles consisted of truck trailers and people were living in them. How they got there and why they were abandoned I'll leave to your imagination. Anything which can provide the shelter-and defense-of a cave will be used. Mugwump |
Area23 | 10 Feb 2007 11:35 a.m. PST |
Anything that protects you from the acid rain. Buses, carwrecks, improvised shanty constructions from builders plastic, aluminium plates
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Hacksaw | 10 Feb 2007 11:39 a.m. PST |
Loads and loads of wriggly tin, if the movies are anything to go by :-) |
Hundvig | 10 Feb 2007 11:40 a.m. PST |
The hollowed-out carapaces of giant cockroaches
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aecurtis | 10 Feb 2007 11:52 a.m. PST |
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Garand | 10 Feb 2007 11:54 a.m. PST |
I kind of liked the Chieftain tank as a shelter myself
Damon. |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 12:01 p.m. PST |
AECurtis, Have you ever stayed in one of those? Those things are made of mostly cardboard and plaster. Not much protection there. :) CC |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 12:08 p.m. PST |
I guess some of the heavier built metal train containers might work, right? Except I don't know what those things are actually called, in order to do a search for them in O scale. CC |
Dropzonetoe | 10 Feb 2007 12:25 p.m. PST |
Don't have to look in the future to see what it would look like. Check google for Shanty town, ghettos, 3rd world living, homeless, squatters, tent cities, refugees, and south africa. You will find a lot. picture picture picture picture picture
Just a few. Toe |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 12:28 p.m. PST |
Toe, In the even that trains and other things become obsolete, do you think people will choose a shack over a ready-built sturdy structure? CC |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 12:35 p.m. PST |
That should read "In the event that trains and other things become obsolete as transportation vehicles". CC |
Dropzonetoe | 10 Feb 2007 12:40 p.m. PST |
Not at all. The original question was for living condition for scavengers. I was just linking to modern "Scavengers" You could just as easily see find images of people squatting in abandoned buildings, buses, boxcars. The links I gave would be the poorest, living in the most over crowded areas. I was once working on some modular wall sections to make my own resin shanty towns for my si-fi games. I used to have hundreds of pics for inspiration. I wish I had them still to show you. Whole towns of corrugated metal buildings. Also a number of Asian/Brazilian towns built on the side of mountains. really interesting stuff. Toe |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 1:32 p.m. PST |
Three or four of these could be arranged in a triangular or quadrangular pattern to make a nice fort. I guess the problem would be to have the right machinery to drag those things into that configuration. CC |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 1:34 p.m. PST |
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Area23 | 10 Feb 2007 1:51 p.m. PST |
Plasticville makes right-sized abanded boxcar. A set called 'hoboville' I believe. abandoned trains can only be inhabited by people who decide to live near train rails. if train are obsolete as transport, why would people live near a train rail. Not much food to scavenge, unless it's very near a highway too. Abandoned motels are much more interesting. With a bit of tactical barricading & boobytrapping you can hold out some hours in case of attack. But as a base to go out collecting it's much more feasable for day to day survival. In a period of a few weeks, when organised well, you can turn even the worst third rate cockroach motel in a good fortress. |
Lowtardog | 10 Feb 2007 2:37 p.m. PST |
The containers you talk about are used or were by the MOD in the falklands on the mountain RADAR sites for living accomodation |
Trapondur | 10 Feb 2007 3:16 p.m. PST |
My idea of post apocalyptic is 99% of people dead. That should not lead to crowding anytime soon thereafter. People would just live in deserted skyscrapers. |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 3:24 p.m. PST |
I also think that the majority of the population will have gone, with the remainder leaving the urban areas (returning occasionally to scavenge, though). People would be hunting eachother for resources. Improvised fortified dwellings, away from most others, would be the way to go. CC |
Area23 | 10 Feb 2007 4:17 p.m. PST |
Agree trapondur!! Small villages on top of skyscrapers! And gangwars on ground-level. |
Cacique Caribe | 10 Feb 2007 4:20 p.m. PST |
Didn't "Omega Man" reside on the top floor of a fortified building? CC |
Garand | 10 Feb 2007 5:24 p.m. PST |
Re: Living space in a post-apocalyptic world: whether people will be living in skyscrapers or not is all determined by the type of apocalypse, and the period of time from which it happened. A post-Nuclear wasteland probably wouldn't have too many skyscrapers for habitation (they would be glass). Similarly, 50 or 100 years post apocalypse may see those buildings in far worse shape; lack of human habitation and upkeep does bad things to abandoned buildings
Damon. |
bandit86 | 10 Feb 2007 10:12 p.m. PST |
I was thinking the same. Unless it's an all out nuke war were everything's is destroyed why would the survivors just not live in the best building they could find. Look at the "Postman" for a good example |
DocFirefly | 11 Feb 2007 10:18 a.m. PST |
How about a High School? Max Brooks sugested this in Zombie Survival Guide. In midwestern American rural counties High Schools are located in the middle of nowhere (in order to be more centralized and meeting the needs of everyone). Boarding up the first floor windows and blocking off some entrences would make it more defensible. Inside the high school would be (initiallly) lots of classroom space (for individual families), limited medical supplies, HVAC equiptment, Wood/Metal working tools, a large supply of (school) food, some clothing (ever see a school lost in found in Mid February?), books from the library, a greenhouse or at least a FFA center and (if you could get power) computers. Some rural districts still have NRA sponsered Shooting clubs. Everything a growing community of survivors would need. Doc Out |
kreoseus | 12 Feb 2007 6:47 a.m. PST |
"Look at the "Postman" for a good example" not a phrase I ever thought to hear
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Captain Apathy | 12 Feb 2007 12:04 p.m. PST |
The short lived miniseries Jeremiah is an interesting example of a post apocalyptic society. The leader of one city put her headquarters in the local highschool and put the labs and gyms to good use. jeremiah.tv/story.html an excerpt from the above site
"Set in the future, the series focuses on Jeremiah (Luke Perry) who must navigate his way through a world populated by the survivors of a deadly epidemic that spared only those who had not yet reached puberty. Now those same survivors must find their way in a decadent civilization and attempt to create a new world order of hope." |
Cacique Caribe | 30 Apr 2007 11:16 a.m. PST |
Does anyone make buses for 28mm that have removable tops? Thanks. CC |
Lullabye Skipp | 30 Apr 2007 11:40 a.m. PST |
"Look at the "Postman" for a good example" not a phrase I ever thought to hear
you're not alone
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chironex | 09 Jun 2009 7:43 p.m. PST |
@Area23: Not so, I see old trains everywhere from backyards through public parks to canefields, plus if the rails go through a town or point of interest there may be a reason for people to stay there. If nothing else then an abandoned train in the middle of nowhere would be shelter and somewhere to live away from everyone else. |