| Cacique Caribe | 31 Dec 2006 2:02 p.m. PST |
Based on these speculations, would you go for a post-disaster chaos game set in a large metro area directly hit (if so, which one) or would you go for an area hit by mega-tsunamis? TMP link I guess I am just trying to figure out whether to use charred buildings or a semi-flooded setting. CC |
| Lowtardog | 31 Dec 2006 2:09 p.m. PST |
I think Charred buildings would be easier? |
| John the OFM | 31 Dec 2006 3:20 p.m. PST |
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| Space Monkey | 31 Dec 2006 3:27 p.m. PST |
I like the semi-flooded idea… maybe just because it sounds so different.
Would there be naval action between small fleets of boats trying to grab high ground or sunken shopping malls?
Kind of like an (even more) 'hillbilly' version of Waterworld. |
| Cacique Caribe | 31 Dec 2006 3:53 p.m. PST |
VB3, If that was they route to go, I would cut buildings (O scale buildings?) below a specific height and glue them to mdf (following some sort of street grid. I would then paint the mdf brown-green and "laquer" it somehow, with lots of flotsam and debris everywhere. How would that sound? CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 31 Dec 2006 3:54 p.m. PST |
Heck, the half cut buildings left overs could be used for the remaining charred sections of blasted buildings . . . Damn, that caffeine must have finally kicked in!!! CC |
| Space Monkey | 31 Dec 2006 4:04 p.m. PST |
Yeah, that sounds good…
All these small concrete islands, with canals in between… trying to invade each other to get more stuff… it'd be pretty brutal.
Some folks would play nice and band together… but the street gangs would already be well armed… I can't remember the film… it had some guys racing to find some McGuffin in a flooded town… had a scene where they were driving a small outboard fishing boat through the halls of some office building. |
| the Gorb | 31 Dec 2006 4:10 p.m. PST |
So the game would be Post-Apophisistic? Try saying THAT three times quickly. I really like the flooded concept. Extend it to a major city with a 100-150 ft rise in sea level, and you could pit skyscraper against skyscraper. Add mecha and you could game half the animes out there. Regards, the Gorb |
 Dances With Words   | 31 Dec 2006 4:30 p.m. PST |
Well…you could always play the ultimate 'disaster' scenario… Get everybody 'snockered…' to the point of passing out, make sure everybody is lying down…turn off all the lights and pass out in complete darkness…(Game over! wasn't that fun?)… or you could do what the others suggest above…using tops for 'waterworld MkII and lower halves for 'Fire and Ice' sections???? So which part of the rules you'd be using have the 'bend your head between your legs and kiss your…SELF goodbye?' By 2029 we should have a way to send a beacon to it to track it for orbital calculations and IF it's coming back…dust off the old X-71 plans from 'Armmageddon' and blow the sucker up/out/away? I mean this one isn't as big as 'Texas'…so should be a 'snap'??? Happy New Year!
**slish…slish***
Sgt DWW |
| Cacique Caribe | 31 Dec 2006 4:42 p.m. PST |
DWW, Don't worry. We have a few more years to game this. The 2029 pass is just a fireworks show. The one to worry about is 2036. CC |
| comitatus | 31 Dec 2006 5:52 p.m. PST |
hmmm… for some reason, Gorkamorka sounds plausible to me for the waterworld-esque setting. lots of vehicles/boats, boarding rules (IIRC), improvised and unreliable weapons… |
| Space Monkey | 31 Dec 2006 7:34 p.m. PST |
Lots of spring-loaded harpoon-type weapons… (don't gotta worry about your powder getting wet)…
Each submerged skyscraper is it's own little kingdom… with traps all around… homemade mines, nets, chunks of concrete thrown out the window…
Fishing boats doing trade for protection and equipment (what's the word for a floating caravan?)… |
| Space Monkey | 31 Dec 2006 7:39 p.m. PST |
If it was Manhattan then there could be big battles between fleets of boats on the 'lake' covering Central Park… with supporting fire out of the windows of the buildings around it. |
| jpattern | 31 Dec 2006 7:51 p.m. PST |
Go flooded!
The movie Venus is trying to remember is Hard Rain: imdb.com/title/tt0120696
Not a very good movie, but the flooded town set is pretty neat.
2004's "Day After Tomorrow" had a similar conceit, first with the city flooded to a certain level, then frozen to the same level. The ship that "sailed" into the city would be a neat piece of terrain to fight on and around, too. Revell, for example, does a few cheap 1/400 civilian ships; a year or so ago I picked up a Revell 1/400 Glasgow tanker at the local hobby shop for less than $12 USD for an eventual post-apocalyptic terrain board.
In the old post-apocalyptic novel "Hiero's Journey" by Sterling E. Lanier, set something like 5000 years post-holocaust, one chapter takes place in an ancient flooded city (Toronto, as I recall, but I could be wrong). That chapter could give you a wealth of ideas for not only terrain, but also encounters with other humans and mutated wildlife.
If you go the flooded city route, don't make all the buildings square or rectangular with flat roofs. Make them all different shapes, including round, and give some of them domes or "stepped pyramid" roofs. A parking garage would be cool, with only the top level above the water.
The Crimson Skies boxed game included aerial view maps of Manhattan that could serve as a nice basis for the game.
You could do skirmishes in 28mm, involving just a few buildings. But I'd be tempted to go with 1/300, with lots of buildings and a wrecked 1/350 or 1/400 ship. |
| GypsyComet | 31 Dec 2006 9:35 p.m. PST |
If you went 1/300, I'd suggest a city with some topography. Seattle or Portland, for example. Then you could build a board with burnt ruins on the high ground and island buildings on the "low ground". Stick a skyscraper cluster further out in the water and use a combination of boats and hovercraft. |
| Cacique Caribe | 31 Dec 2006 9:49 p.m. PST |
I guess that, in my case, I will have to go with a small pocket of resistance in a flooded city, using 28mm figures. I would definitely love to see what others do in the smaller scales though. CC |
| Dances With Words | 01 Jan 2007 5:29 a.m. PST |
Erm…what about 'Cadilacs and Dinosaurs??? It is/was a comic series and also a game…(I have it somewhere) and you have a mix of technology…flooded cities…(like NYC)…and the return of…(wait for it, CC…) DINOSAURS! and other 'mutations'… I believe Washington DC is known as a SWAMP…(which is how it started out)…but is renamed after all the white marble/rock (used to be monuments…mostly flat and underwater now??)..and 'civilization' is a mixture of technologies, species, time-periods…and so on??? That way CC could use his 'cavemen stuff' too??? A cross between Kong, Jurrassic Park, Waterworld, the Morrow Project and so on??? Does that help any CC???
Sgt DWW |
| Space Monkey | 01 Jan 2007 7:19 p.m. PST |
Hmmm… what was that not-good time travel movie where they stepped on the butterfly and returned home to find their huge modern city turned into a partially flooded jungle, complete with mutated prehistoric-ish species eating the civilians?
'A Distant Thunder'? From what I understand Manhattan would sink under its own weight right now if there weren't huge bilges underground continually pumping out the water… |
| Cacique Caribe | 02 Jan 2007 10:52 p.m. PST |
Just for perspective: Tunguska: 10-20 megatons
Krakatoa: 200 megatons
Apophis: 880 megatons CC |
| Roberto Cofresi | 04 Jan 2007 1:07 p.m. PST |
How deep would you want the water to be? link |
| Chupacabras | 04 Jan 2007 1:23 p.m. PST |
I don't think many flooded buildings would be left standing after a tsunami. So go with charred buildings outside of ground zero of an impact.
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| Cacique Caribe | 21 Jan 2007 4:41 p.m. PST |
I might try both then, starting with the easiest (the charred terrain – I think). Thanks for the input guys. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Jan 2007 7:29 p.m. PST |
These guys would definitely be in my scenarios: link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Jul 2007 4:44 p.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 21 Jul 2007 5:08 p.m. PST |
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| Captain Apathy | 22 Jul 2007 6:13 p.m. PST |
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| 28mmMan | 23 Jul 2007 7:29 a.m. PST |
Semi or mostly flooded would be the ticket. But think around it all, go up…balloons. Tops of buildings, upper structures used for anchor points for new construction. The balloons would be faster transport, boats/ships could carry the heavy loads. To construct a vision: The Postman
Escape from New York
Water World The city New York (EfNY) with the gangs and such, fill it up with water to the 10-13th floor level or sink it to the same. Add the Atoll "towns" (WW) built upon the exposed supports. Bring in PA politics, pirates, rovers, and you have the makings of a brave new world…wet but new. |
| Cacique Caribe | 28 Nov 2007 4:44 p.m. PST |
Get ready to game it, for soon you will live it!!! TMP link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 25 Jun 2008 1:12 p.m. PST |
For the latest batch of suggestions for gaming on an inundated urban setting . . . TMP link CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 26 Dec 2008 4:13 p.m. PST |
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| Farstar | 31 Dec 2008 11:34 a.m. PST |
"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering kaboom!" |
John Leahy  | 31 Dec 2008 10:59 p.m. PST |
I thought this was a thread about Stargate. Shows what I know. :-D Thanks, John |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Jan 2009 6:27 a.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 06 Jun 2009 11:51 p.m. PST |
More recent news here: link Ok. IF 2036 does result in an impact . . . For an idea of what a land impact on a city would look like, watch what happens 5:10 minutes into this clip: YouTube link And for an ocean impact: YouTube link Either way, looks like it would be quite a show. CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 07 Jun 2009 1:08 a.m. PST |
This speculative docu-drama clip is about an attempt to blow up an asteroid 1/3 the size of Apophis (which is supposed to be about 270-300 meters wide): YouTube link It is thought that, if it were to EVER hit, Apophis would hit with a force of 880 megatons. By comparison, the impacts which created the Barringer Crater or caused the Tunguska event are estimated to be in the 3–10 megaton range. The 1883 eruption of Krakatoa was the equivalent of roughly 200 megatons. Anyway . . . Imagine a lot of little "islands" like these, after a major coastal city is hit by a tsunami from it: picture What do you think??? CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 14 Oct 2009 12:02 a.m. PST |
What??? "Asteroid ‘Apophis' will miss us this time; but 2068? Stay tuned"
link C'mon people. Now they are saying 2068??? CC |
| Cacique Caribe | 01 Jan 2010 10:52 p.m. PST |
Seems like the Russians know something we don't: link Dan |
