"I'm Thinking of Getting SST Mobile Light Infantry" Topic

Though I am thinking of using them for all sorts of near-future, off-world colony and post-apocalyptic gaming (not strictly SST).

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How good are the models on that specific boxed set?

Also, are they compatible in size to Copplestone Castings and EM-4 Scavengers?

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They're nice enough figures but they're pretty large. I don't know about the Copplestone Castings or EM-4 Scavengers but they're larger than a GW Space Marine, or even a Chaos Terminator, if that's any help.

Too bad about the large size. This price was looking good:

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hold on hold on… the m1 troops from mongoose are 28mm scale but they are larger than chaos terminators that are about say 35mm

At less then a buck apiece you can claim they come from a slightly higher gravity world!

After all it is SciFi!

When I get home I'll look at them again but a few weeks ago I was painting some LAMI and some Chaos Terminators and I remember thinking that the LAMI were a bit taller. They are nice figures and well proportioned, though.

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One of the most useful SF figure sites I've ever seen. Give it a whirl if you're worried about size difference in your figures.

LAMI are about half way down, entry May 4th part two. Just click on the pics and you can move them about to compare with others. LAMI are about 36mm, bigger (well, taller) than a terminator.

Geez. Too damn bad. :(

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I know. It stopped me picking up a couple of boxes. I don't mind a bit of height variation, especially in individual figures, but 20-40 guys towering over everybody else on the board…naah. I'll stick with Cadians.

I really liked the "LAMI" look. But Mongoose's are too damn big, and 1st Corps too damn small:

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I am starting to feel like Goldilocks.

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I don't play SST but I picked some up for use in other systems. The flash on my batch was horrible. We are talking solid slugs of lead that obscured barrels, etd. I had to file the front of the morita back into a mockery of what it would have been. This may have been a fluke but it was my personal experience with the figs.

I got them to be used as generic sci fi troops. Well really I got them because that armor got reused in Firefly as the federal troops.

They are a tad large, but I don't think the size difference is that noticeable once they hit the table.

The set I got was fairly flash free, and even came with an extra fig. For the price, I think they're well worth it.

mongoose need to sort their molds out

CC, Go for Copplestones Troopers and add in the EM4 Troopers which are slightly (only just) more dainty they work well for LAMI or other SciFi troopers.

I have a box of Lami and have cut off the slots as I cant abide them, with this it evens out the height a bit but these guys are quite robust in the physique department

I like them, and you can't beat the price. I am not doing much with SciFi at the moment, but at some point I expect I will pick some up. Having them slightly on the tall side doesn't bother me too much – I shouldn't have any trouble rationalizing it.

We have em on offer at the moment… and i've got 1 box left ;)

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I've noticed that MP's figs are often quite oversized. I bought one of the GoMC1 gang boxes to use with my Combat Zone figs, only to find that most of the GoMC1 figs are well over 30mm tall and obviously out of place when compared with my EM4 gangers.

Well, between my son and I we have 8 boxes of them. He used them in a Combat Zone game I ran with EM=4, Copplestone and heroclix figs on the same table. They are larger but they worked for us. I mean the price IS incredible. I picked up mine for as cheap as 15 bucks a set.

Thanks,

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The Mongoose SST range is 32mm to eye level, counting helmets and all that they typically stand 35-36mm tall overall. They sure don't look good in photos anywhere near a 28mm figure, but perahps that's just me.

I just got 5 Light Infantry in the mail yesterday that I had special ordered as bits from Mongoose a few weeks ago. I like the figures. Yes, they are taller than a lot of other figures, but I don't think I'll have any qualms about mixing them with Shockforce figures, JC Figures, Infinity Figures(when I get them), Spugs, Drantakhs, Hydrissians (when I get them), Alternative Armies, Warzone and even some of my newer 40K stuff.

I probably wouldn't mix them with my smaller old school 40K, Kryomek humans, or my Grenadier Future Wars.But I could easily justify mixing as various factions coming from different parts of the galaxy with distinct racial backgrounds that effect their height. The weapons are totally different anyway, which avoids the issue I have with multiple sizes of the exact same rifle model in WWII figure mixing.

I bought 3 boxes when they came out. They are great. 20 metal figures for $25 USD is also a sweet deal. Also comes with a good mix of Female Troopers that you do not have to pay $3.00 USD each to add to your squads. Plenty of figures for a normal SST game as well.

You can now order blisters of just the Sniper/Rocket/Radio/Camera guys.

They are slightly larger than my Original Imperial Guard from 1987 and about the same as the later plastic and metal Cadian Imperial Guard I have. Visually it works out well together for sick sized games at home like Klendathu.

I've come up with the prefect use for MI or light troopers in non-SST games.

Zentradei in Macross style games, they work prefectly for that.

Or if you still play 40K replace the midget Space Marines with them as they are more representative of the size a Space Marine should be. Just make the light armor troopers Space Marine Scouts.

Be creative.

WELL, CC, ole DAWGIE likes the MONGOOSE LI troopers and i had no problems with flash, or anything else PRODUCTION wise with the 3 boxes i bought right after they were released.

there is a reasonable variation in height among the male compared with males, as well as the males compared with females. posing is not bad, equipment is bang on for the SST:THE MOVIE MI.

i just wish there were more variation in poses of male female, as well as outfitting these poor devils with some really useful SAW in addition to the POMML and the SNIPER RIFLE.

if they made a SAW in an advancing or being fired from the hip, standing, kneeling (one or both knees), or prone, i would be all over it like flies on
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i have never been able to figure the "military logic" of fighting hordes of BUGs with just assault rifle/GL combos, sniper rifles, and POMMLs: the BUG WAR screams out for a rapid moving man portable SAW or GPMG fed from a cassette or linked belts!

the BIG 50s for installation or FSB/OP defense make sense, but they simply do not fit into the rapid movement concept of the MI for a mobile FS automatic weapon.

the new smaller, tripod mounted LMGs are a tad more practical, but are somewhat a step backwards since they do not have the ability to fire from a bipod or on the move from the hip, shoulder, rested on something or fired from a bipod.

as far as the soldiers actually look on the table top, they do blend in well with other painted toys representing LI or unarmored civvies/guerillas.

a third choice, if you can find them, would be the SHOCKFORCE MK 2 CORPORATE TROOPERS: these guys, except for weaponry , look a lot like the SST:THE MOVIE troopers . . .

i say again, MK 2 SHOCKFORCE CORPORATE TROOPERS, NOT THE MK 1 CORPORATE TROOPERS . . .

UNION soldiers from the VOR: THE MAELSTROM are very nice generic future soldiers.

DAWGIE

Dawgie, I'm doing exactly as you suggest with the Mk2 shockforce troopers. I'm currently painting the second half of a shockforce platoon and using the 5 LAMI from Mongoose to add a Lieutenant, NCO, Sniper, Fednet reporter, and another missile launcher w/the nuke munition.

I see what you mean about the VOR figures:

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They do look quite nice!

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They look interesting.

UNION infantry from VOR:THE MAELSTROM are very nice soldiers, they are slightly bigger than GW, more "real physiologically". the NEO SOV VANGUARDS are _HUGE_much bigger and bulkier than the UNION troopers.

SHOCKFORCE CORPORATE TROOPERS MK 2 are almost exactly the same size and proportion as the MP MI light armored soldiers, look an awfull lot like them but do have minor differences (weapons/shoulder pads).

i was looking at the MI light troopers from 1ST CORPS that i own yesterday evening; they are small, somewhere close to true 25mm scale in height but a tad chunkier. there are many more variations of soldier poses available from 1STCORPS than MP.

thinking back to my time in SE ASIA, LOL, i remember how all except the smallst GIs_towered_over the ARVN, VC, and NVA soldiers, as well as the "less fit" civvies who were not fighting for anyone.

i also remembered the tiny GHURKA soldiers who have fought against and later for the UK for well over 100 years. they are highly prized troops, not losers, due to their small size. many years ago, i remember seeing a gigantic SCOT standing next to tiny GHURKA: i was looking at the then latest example of two of the world's most notable soldier types.

soooooo, wot has this got to do with the 1STCORPS light armored MI, you ask?

maybe some of the troops raised for the KLENDATHU INVASION (OPERATION BUGHOUSE?) were from GHURKA colonized frontier worlds? hmmmmmm? makes sense to me!

also the 1STCORP are small enough to be representative of smaller, women MI, and mixed in with the larger MP troops.

or. maybe, borrowing a page from AMERICAN MILITARY HISTORY, the 1ST CORPS MI are cadets from a military school pressed into emergency service by a BUG or SKINNIE invasion?

makes for a nice scenario idea . . . .

the plastic soldiers from WAR ZONE, representing the basic IMPERIAL and BAUHAUS troopers, are very different looking from the MP light MI, but armed almost identically (mostly AR/GL combos, but they do have multi-barrel rotary barrel LMG as well). again these could be locally raised troops for defense of a frontier world or forces contributed for the invasion of KLENDATHU.

VOID has some nice plastic JUNKERS and IRIDIANS available wearing powersuits that could be modified to become alternate MI types. there are also some very nice metal soldiers from the various human factions (original miniatures) who could be used for lightly armored MI, or uniformed militia soldiers.

DAWGIE

"also the 1STCORP are small enough to be representative of smaller, women MI, and mixed in with the larger MP troops."

I just got MP female MI troopers in the mail 3 days ago. They are slightly smaller in frame from the MP male MI troopers. I liked the variation.

WYRMIE, THIS IS TRUE!

HOWEVER, the difference in height between MP women light infantry and using 1STCORPS light infantry still adds some nice variations in height, build and gear.

kinda like PVT LAWLESS standing next to PVT PARKER, PVTS HANNAH and THURMANN standing on either side of PVT LIU, etc.

DAWGIE who also likes the MP women light infantry soldiers, and wishes there was more variation among them . . .

If anyone is interested, here is a good deal I just found:

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Wait.

Are the SST Mobile Light Infantry the sprues that many were complaining about – something about the pieces not fitting or very hard to assemble?

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The SST light inf are metal. The problems some had were with the CAP troopers.

AgentBrown,

That is excellent!!!

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The WeeToySoldiers comparison photos proved very, very helpful. Thanks.

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Has anyone tried any of the projected future camouflage patterns?

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I just ordered my SST Mobile Light Infantry box and I think I might do mine in the future desert camo. What do you think?

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Considering that was the terrian the movie and CGI series had them fighting on the most go for it. But I wonder does camo have any effect on the Bugs vision?

<wry> No Sargonarhes, there is no longer any actual purpose in camo other than it makes the soldiers "look good" </wry>.

Seriously though, if I can find it, there is a website for the contractor that is making the new U.S. Air Force uniforms (yeah, it's not the Army/Marines butit's a funny story)and they clearly displayed their displeasure with the board that picked out the new cloth patterns. After much research and computer testing, they thought they had a good example for the advisory board to pick from. After it was declined, a basic pattern was picked that was not researched using any available new technology. Here is their site link. Enjoy -

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Answered more simply, the bugs would just see us in infrared or smell us out, so I don't think camo would work to well.

Uh, that's "so I don't think camo would work too well."

BTW, my point earlier was that the Air Force didn't pick the final pattern for its masking efficiency as much as it was that it "looked cool".

I finally purchased a box of the Mongoose Publishing Starship Troopers Mobile Light Infantry:

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The box contains 20 figures, but I only want ONE of each pose, a squad without duplicates (which which comes to 10 figures total).

Before I go to ebay, is anyone interested in the other 10 figures? Thanks.

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PS. Email: Daniel DOT Martinez1 AT sbcglobal DOT net

Review I had not seen before:

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Question:

Since this thread was started, has anyone been able to get a comparison photo of the 1st Corp sci-fi trooper figures next to a Copplestone, EM4, TAG, or other manufacturer of "28mm" figures?

Thanks.

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Hmmm…seems to me that none of you ever heard of Fredrich der Grosse's Potsdam Guards. IIRC they were all hand picked for being over 6 feet tall…

Leland R. Erickson
Metal Express
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I feel like Goldilocks . . .

I found the Mongoose SST to be too tall.

I found the First Corps Colonial Troopers to be too short.

Yet I found the EM-4 (Copplestone) Troopers to be just right.

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So, I'm keeping my EM-4s.

I sold the Mongoose SST troopers a few months ago, and am doing the same with the First Corps troopers:

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