"Guide to WWII Naval Camouflage, How Good?" Topic

Any of you guys know anything about, "The Painter's Guide To
World War Two Naval Camouflage" by Clash of Arms? I'm looking for pretty much one stop shopping for info for 1:6000 ships.

I've seen it and it's very useful, especially for U.S. ships. Lots of info in a compact volume.

Vogs,

I have a copy around here somewhere – when I find it I will let you borrow it.

Art

Very good for the various US measures, fairly good for the Brits on schemes such as Western Approaches and Med. I don't recall how useful it is for the Axis.

Given the dearth of information available, I'd recommend this as possibly the best single source available and fairly reasonably priced as I recall. Kind of a must for WW2 naval gamers.

I recommend the book as well.

I must say that I have found the internet useful though in tracking down specific WWII ships. I can not rely specifically on the Clash of Arms book, but maybe I'm just too picky when I paint up my ships.

I picked the book up recently and I find it's very hit and miss. If it has the class you want and the scheme you want, it's wonderful and you're set.

What I'm finding difficult is classes that aren't listed in the book. When I look at black and white photos of ships I often can't tell which scheme it's in – so I'm stuck in a situation where I need to pick a scheme from the book, which the ship may or may not have ever worn, and then guess how to modify it to fit the model. I'm not picky and I'll probably just go ahead and do it, but I would have preferred a wider variety of ship classes.

With that criticism, I didn't know anything at all about ship camouflage when I started and I'm glad I picked it up.

Gentlemen,

Reviving an ancient text, long forgotten by archaeologists, I know, but can anyone recommend any further reading on the subject. I would esecially like to find more detail on Japanese and Italian patterns.

Mike

See the GHQ forums. There's a post on the Italian-language book "La Mimetizzazione Delle Navi Italiane 1940-1945".

If you're wargaming with Japanese when they were still fighting at strength ('41-'43), they tended not to have too much in the way of camouflage. They were the grey of the yard where they were last refitted. It was only when hiding that the greens came out – mostly on the carriers as I understand it.

Early on, a lot of Italian ships were just grey as well. I'm in the process of sourcing that book (site unseen, based on the recommendations on forums), so it will be interesting to see what's in it.

Mike

BTW, I have the Italian camo book, and it is excellent (hundreds of color side drawings). Even has a short English language summary section at the end, as well as short comparative sections on British, American, German, Italian and Japanese camouflage. It costs around $100. USD though.

Thank you, gentlemen!

I must pick up this Italian book. Actually, I am very interested in Japanese camouflage 1944-45, if anyone knows of any sources.

Mike

There's On Military Matters (OMM). I have it in stock.

1-85540 Bagnasco, Erminio and Brescia, Maurisio LA MIMETIZZAZIONE DELLE NAVI ITALIANE 1940-1945 11x8.5, a wealth of information on the ItalianNavy Camouflage, hundreds of side views in colorof every type of Italian Naval Craft in WWII, alsocolor & b/w photos/illust.1 vol, 240 pgs 2007 ITLAY, ERMANNO ALBERTELLI
NEW-dj, Italian text $85.00 USD

You can go to our website onmilitarymatters.com or call me direct: 609-466-2329

Dennis from OMM

We also have The Painter's Guide from Clash of Arms in stock, too.

1-43550 Bond, Larry and Hreachmack, Pat PAINTERS GUIDE TO WORLD WAR TWO NAVAL CAMOUFLAGE Descriptions for all the major & some minor naviespainting schemes, with color chips on cover.1 vol, 64 pgs 1996 US, CLASH OF ARMS GAMES
NEW-color softcover ……$19.00

Dennis from OMM