"Why the Shortage of Hebrews in 28mm?" Topic

I have the Foundry Canaanites, but would like to know if Castaways Hebrews (or anyone else's version of Hebrews, for that matter) are compatible with them in size, bulk and proportions:

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It seems that Early Hebrews (pre-kingdom) and Judeans/Israelites (until Babylonian exile) are hardly touched by sculptors and manufacturers. Why is that?

Or, am I wrong in my assumption?

Has anyone heard if there are sculptors or manufacturers planning to solve this apparent deficiency?

Thanks.

CC

I find a combination of Foundry and Castaway Arts to be a great sufficiency: compatible in size, good variation in poses, etc.

And Newline has added to the mix.

I thought we'd been down this road.

Allen

Allen,

Though the 18 infantry poses in Castaways line amount to the equivalent of just 2-3 packs, you are absolutely right. I had completely forgotten about Newline.

newlinedesigns.co.uk

CC

I think it's time to grumble that thirty years ago we'd have accepted four figures as a complete range, and been grateful for it.

Eighteen poses for infantry? Luxury.

I have 15 different poses on the Perry cavalry unit I'm working on.

I find Iron Wind (formerly Ral Partha) Chariots to be an excellent mix with Foundry.

Mexican Jack, I remember in the 1970s that you generally only got 1 pose from companies like Minifigs, Hinchliffe and Garrison. 4 poses would have been luxury then. I am going to stop now, as I feel this thread is becoming a bit "4 Yorkshiremen" like.

Senor Squint has it right.
Hinchliffe Palmyrans? ONE cataphract. ONE light cavalryman. And Queen Zenobia on a camel. That hardly counts, as who wants a unit of Zenobias? There can be only one.

Kids today, don't know how lucky they have it.

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Ral Partha biblical infantry are very compatible with Foundry. They are larger than the usual RP stuff. I highly reommend "Hyksos" and "Syrian" figures.

as who wants a unit of Zenobias?

I can dream, can't I?

Oh, now there you go again. Reinforcing the "cronyism" charges. One would think that I fed you that straight line deliberately.

Our figures are available as singles rather than in packs. Our customers seem to like that kind of flexibility.

In addition weapons and shields can be swapped around, allowing considerable variation.

Scans of all figures are on our site.

Gerry Webb
Castaway Arts
castawayarts.com.au

CC Castaway Arts, Foundry and Newline Designs fit in very well together so with that you can build up a good army. The Castaway Arts ark is wonderful to see. I do agree though that given all the history and Bible etc. it is surprising that that only Castaway and now Newline do an "official" range. And I like them because they look like Hebrews and not just Cananites who could also be Hebrews.

I think the answer to the original question is that there is not much evidence for what the "pre-kingdom" Hebrew would have looked like. Probably similar to the other denizens of the region.

I've wondered about this, too. Companies produce a line of figures, label it "Biblical," and what does it consist of when you get into it: Hittites and Egyptians!
Perhaps part of it is that the states of Palestine, Syria and Phoenicia were squeezed between the super powers of the era, Egyptians, Hittites, and Assyrians.

Grelber

Took some doing, but I finally found some pictures of the Newline Israelites:

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Thanks guys!

CC

I have posted photo of King David on yahoo bronze age site. Figure is general chariot from 28mm from Newline designs plus couple of light bowmen.

Very nice indeed!!

CC

And now years later Miniature Design Studio has added a rather nice spearman in 3 poses.

Everything I've gotten/painted from Castaway has been totally top rate in quality. I guess that means I should think about a hebrew army in the near future.

Chuck

ps- I think that the old Minifig 15mm barbarian armies that I made with figures from the old "Rome and the Barbarians" line had maybe 1 or 2 figure poses for each class of troop. And I was happy with that . . .

Adster said what I was thinking. Tenakh implies that warriors either used big shields or bucklers & the standing army wore a 'soldier's belt' which could be like an Assyrian stomacher

Other than that, just later assyrian images to go on

Painted Newline and some (need to post some more) painted Castway Arts Israelites. Both very nice lines:

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Seems the source is Beresford's KING DAVID film! Crap script, good sets & battles

Looking good Thomas. I have those ranges myself and of course the wonderful ark from Castway Arts. Miniature Designs plan on some lighter armed troops also and possible star of David shield.

BLUF: Where amoungst Wargames Foundry's "Ancients" are their "Hebrew?"

On a number of their "Ancients" pages, WF's staff writers refer to the "Hebrew" (at least once, "Hapiru") as opponents of the ancient people/state being discussed. For example, "Egypt fought the Hyksos, Canaanites, Syrians, Mitannians, Hittites, Hebrews, Philistines, Sea Peoples, Nubians, Libyans, Bedouin…"

NO-where, however, do I find any sub-tab shown, or any portion of any list under the "Ancients" tab, for any Hebrews to fill that "requirement."

Thoughts? Help?

My suggestion is to check out Warlord Games.

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Try this above link – Cutting Edge Miniatures