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OMalley10 Mar 2006 11:13 a.m. PST

Ya know those old single pose Brettonian Archers by GW? Would they be suitable for Archers in the Hundred Years War?
I found a small pile of them in my basement (good place for miniatures…) and I was thinking of using them for 25mm DBA.

Gunslinger10 Mar 2006 11:15 a.m. PST

I dunno, but I have about 300 of them!

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut10 Mar 2006 11:21 a.m. PST

They're more like 28mm, but other than that they should work fine…

OMalley10 Mar 2006 11:25 a.m. PST

They do seem to work fine with my 28mm Foundry figs (I have issues with the whole 25mm-28mm scale difference).

The War Event10 Mar 2006 12:05 p.m. PST

They sort of look so. I have a complete Brettonian army that I have not played with for several years. I really should consider selling it to someone that would enjoy it.

- Greg

Khazarmac10 Mar 2006 1:08 p.m. PST

They are fine for 100years war, for the early nad middle part (eg. Crecy, Poitiers). They aren't that good for the end of the war (eg. Agincourt).

I use my Brettonian knights and archers to double up for a HYW army for WAB Armies of Chivalry. Equally, I use HYW models to bulk up my Brettonians. I also use Black Tree Men of Averaign (and their HYW) minis for both.

baca44214 Mar 2006 7:53 a.m. PST

I used plenty of the Brettonian archers in my 100 Years armies, Mixed with Essex and Old Glory. You can't have enough archers in your English army. A few also got drafted into my WOR levy.

baca44214 Mar 2006 7:54 a.m. PST

You can always pick up a bunch at the flea market at any show.

RNSulentic14 Mar 2006 8:09 a.m. PST

What's funny is that the original "Brettonian" list used pictures of one of the Perry brother's Burgundian Ordonnance Armies (this was like, in 1988). All their WoR figures were the first Brettonians.

georgem27 Mar 2006 9:12 a.m. PST

The old Warhammer Armies book from 1988 back when all the army list were in ONE book, had a photo of Dave ANdrews Burgundians being used as Brettonians.

Admiral Knewt12 Sep 2006 5:04 a.m. PST

Actually I was thinking the same thing as 111Marine about doing a c.1400 army based off the 2000 GW Warhammer set.
The old bowmen are really good. The current bowment *stink.*

What scale *is* the GW Warhammer stuff???
Who else make good figs on the same scale?

Cidtael used to do some amazing figs. Now a lot of what they turn out is crap. Expen$ive crap at that. Some figs are just dwarfed by the weapons they carry. Ahhh….for the good old days.

I like the plastics a lot. Plastics seem to have much better detail. Most metal figs seem too chunky. Why isn't there more plastic figs available?

French Wargame Holidays18 Sep 2006 4:35 p.m. PST

Admiral

The current GW stuff is creeping closer to 30mm, the front rank and mirliton stuff match up ok.

The reason why more companys do not do plastic is the cost, a standard 10 to 12 figure mould for metals cost about 130 dollars to produce, add a spincater 5-10 k, metal oven and some metal. The lifetime of amould is about 600 to 1000 figs.

For a plastic upwards of 3000 dollars for one mould let alone a pressure unit and vacuum to produce vac form plastic like GW.

The crispness of GW stuff is acheived because the original master sculpt is 10 to 20 times larger so a lot more detail can be produced on the model, it is then scanned and a digital mould is then cut and reprocuced so a mould can hold upwards of 100 figures separated into sprue's.

They had a article in a white dwarf a number of years ago when they were justifying the use of plastic "more crispness", ( in reality cheaper production cost once mass produced)

cheers
matt

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