"What paint for Dunkelgelb?" Topic

I've got a Tiger that wants some paint thrown on it, but before I try to mix my own, I was wondering what you all use for dark yellow? Do you mix your own? Does GW or Vallejo make an acceptable shade? Oh, BTW this is to be brushed on, no fancy smancy airbrushing for me.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers!
~OD

Vallejo Model Color has a "Dark Yellow".

Model Masters has a Dunkelgelb in both enamel and acrylic.

Most people I know tend to mix their own. Vallejo Buff with a little yellow is a common combination.

Buff: link

And Yellow: link

Hope that helps.

Old Digger, dunkelgelb is one of the most difficult color to obtain.

Vallejo's 976 then a wash with 882. It should do it.

Model Masters acrylic. Just one small bottle has lasted me dozens of 15mm armored vehicles and dozens of micro armor vehicles as well. Not bad for a $2.50 USD "investment".

Mustard Yellow

Thank ye kindly.

Actually, the Tamyia Dark Yellow is more accurate, I believe. I have both the Model Masters, and the Tamyia, and the Model Masters seems a bit on the greenish side. I know it's not the florecent lights in here, 'cause it looks the same outside too.

I'd go with the Tamyia spray actually. Item #TS-3. Cost me about $4 USD and some change, and it covered quite a number of 15mm tanks. I primered them black first though. Helped to create the shadows for me. Did very little inking.

Yeah, I'd go with the Tamyia spray. The bottle stuff is ok. It's water wash-up, but the smell…..oi! The smell. Do it outside. :-p

helmet101 '…dunkelgelb is one of the most difficult color to obtain.'

Sort of funny that the Germans had the same problem late in the war. The paints came as paste that had to be mixed with gasoline, of course the fuel shortages led to many differing colors.

One of the more common was to do your oil change, mix the used oil 1:2 or even 1:1 with gas and use that to get the paint ready. Some books indicate that the troops sometimes used water to thin the stuff.

So I guess the point, if I really have one, is that most anything in that is based on a mustardy yellow should do.

Vallejo Green Ochre works well. In small scales, add white.

I don't think the Germans used field applied Dk yellow, except maybe in '42 for camo and as repaints of vehicles in '43 when the standard changed. Most vehicles in '43+ had factory applied Dk Yellow; after the Fall of '44 most camo schemes were also factory applied (no pea green on those Jagdtigers!).

It was only the camo paints that were designed for field applications that were thinned with gasoline. They indeed could be thinned with water too, though the tended to wear worse…

I personally prefer Polly Scale Dk Yellow, which I spray through an airbrush…

Damon.

Another vote for Tamiya Dark Yellow (XF-60). If you do want to use the spray (Dark Yellow TS-03) undercoating or primming is a must. A can now retails for 4.95 and coverage will take several coats over bare metal or resin. Try this out. Prime with Model Master spray 1955 Afrika Mustard. This is much too dark for Dunkelgelb. Now overspray lightly with the Tamiya color. You will get some good shadowing effects and if you miss a spot or two will look like shadows.

Tamiya sprays very well with an airbrush though may find yourself cleaning your airbrush tip several times a session which is common with most acrylics of this type.

I use Humbrol 'desert sand' with a peat brown inkwash and a tan drybrush.

I use GW bubonic brown with a chestnut ink wash and several dry brushed highlights with bubonic brown and bleached bone. Don't know how correct the final finish is but it looks right to me.
cheers Jon

Humbrol 83- spot on. I use the Desert Sand for Afrika Korps stuff.

Make that 'Matt Sand' for AK and 'Desert Yellow' for British stuff.

If I use the Tamiya, will a matte coat dull down the glossy finish? I don't want this thing looking like a Hot Wheels car.

Cheers!

That's what matt cotes are for.

Yes matt or dullcoat will dull the finish. If you are going to put decals on you want to spray with gloss coat first. Will help prevent "silvering" of the decals. Last step after washes and dry brushing is a coat of matt or dullcoat. Will not only dull the finish but will protect the final paint job.

And by the way, Tamiya, both bottle and spray, comes in flat or dull coat already.

Thanks for that insight SteveJ, but who is this Matt Cotes fella you're talking about? Perhaps I should have been more clear. I have never used a matte coat on such a glossy finish. I have only used it to dull down glossy ink washes in the past. I was unsure if such a glossy finish that would result from using Tamiya sprays would be dulled down sufficiently. Maybe I'll give this Matt Cotes guy a call.

Cheers!
~OD

Thanks Marc- I didn't realize Tamiya came in dull/flat versions. Well that makes things moot doesn't it? Thanks for the help and info.

Cheers!
~OD

OD- I didn't mean-'that's what matt cotes are for'
I meant-'that's what matt cotes are for'
Hopefully message boards will have inflection and cadence buttons one day.
Oh, and mention my name to matt- you might get a discount.
His brother used to play for Burnley by the way.

LOL- Okay Steve- I might have been too snippy. I had just finished speaking with a client moments before I posted and he put me in a foul mood.

I gotta remember not to take things out on the fine folks here at TMP.

Cheers!
~OD