| Cacique Caribe | 01 Feb 2006 1:42 a.m. PST |
As a follow-up from a previous thread . . .
TMP link Has anyone gamed Pedro Menendez de Aviles and the attack on Fort Caroline? link
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| Cacique Caribe | 01 Feb 2006 2:17 a.m. PST |
I think this is one of many possibilities for gamers who want to skirmish with fewer figures. CC |
| Tony Aguilar | 01 Feb 2006 12:58 p.m. PST |
This would be very cool. Did you happen to see the special on the History Channel last March about the exploring of the New World? The re-enactment of Mendendez's raid was great. |
| Tony Aguilar | 01 Feb 2006 12:59 p.m. PST |
Menendez ….. damn typing! |
| erteuber | 01 Feb 2006 2:06 p.m. PST |
"Heavy lies the head that wears the blue fez…" And apparently it drives some a little nuts. This is one of the weirder threads in a while! |
| Roberto Cofresi | 03 Feb 2006 5:20 a.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 05 Feb 2006 2:50 a.m. PST |
These are FANTASTIC engravings:
link I have also added them to Kingscarbine's Practical Soldier site:
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| erteuber | 11 Feb 2006 1:41 p.m. PST |
Looks like there is a imp in the network. I never sent the post listed as 2/1/06! What I did say was that the attack on Fort Caroline would be one-sided. Don Pedro had 500 (some sources say as many as 800)soldiers, while the French had just over 100. The attack on St. Augustine by Sir Francis Drake may be more interesting, but since the garrison merely buried their cannons and fled inland with the inhaditants, it would not be much fun either. Also, as the Timucuan Indians looted the town after the Spanish fled, but before Sir Francis arrived, that would not be much of a game either. St. Augustine was very violent and suffered many attacks, but the wargaming possibilities don't really, to me, seem very interesting. Eric Teuber
St. Augustine, FL |
| Cacique Caribe | 11 Feb 2006 1:49 p.m. PST |
Fort Caroline: The French forces were about 150 because the main force had left days before, a fact that Menendez was not aware of until he was about to attack. Furthermore, his men were not at their peak, considering that they had just marched in the middle of a hurricane.
Could it be gamed with Menendez arriving before the main French force had departed? St. Augustine: Could it be gamed with the Spanish staying put and making a stand against Drake (including in the town itself against the Timucuan attack)? Just ideas. CC |
| erteuber | 14 Feb 2006 3:47 p.m. PST |
Of course, you could game the attack by the French on St. Augustine, fates dealt them a dreadful blow, but with all the "what ifs" in history, it would have been just as interesting if the French succeeded in their voyage. A more interesting attack on St. Augustine may be the attack by Robert Searles in 1668, who sacked St. Augustine, killed 60 residents, capturing others, with the governor hiding by escaping (narrowly) to the fort. However, there was no attack by the Timucuans. They merely waited until the settlers fled, and then helped themselves – TOTALLY  ing Drake off. Though not a pirate attack, the Governor of St. Augustine, Juan Marques Cabrera invaded and took Port Royal from the Englinh in 1686 and attacked other settlements. I really can't think that that was much different from pirate attacks on MY St. Augustine. Eric Teuber |
| Cacique Caribe | 21 Feb 2006 2:22 a.m. PST |
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| Cacique Caribe | 14 May 2007 8:37 a.m. PST |
Here is a map of the attack route: picture
link I wish this drawing was really to scale:
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PS. HELP!!! I wish I could find the actual dimensions of Fort Caroline. Can anyone help? Thanks. |
| Landorl | 12 Jul 2007 7:05 a.m. PST |
At the park, there is a reconstruction of Fort Caroline, but if I remember right, they said that they reconstructed it smaller than the original fort. |
| Cacique Caribe | 12 Jun 2009 11:02 p.m. PST |
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