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Woollygooseuk02 Dec 2025 2:56 a.m. PST

"Late on Monday, Hegseth posted: "Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support. I stand by him and the combat decisions he has made – on the September 2 mission and all others since."

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So Adm Bradley being set up to take the fall if this all gets too hot?

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 3:56 a.m. PST

So it would seem.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 4:39 a.m. PST

That was my thought.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 5:59 a.m. PST

🙄

Oh God! Here we go again. The latest faux outrage of the leftest MSM and victims of TDA.

"This one will bring him down!!! (Rubbing hands together and drooling from the mouth). Maybe we can at least get old Pete!! (Giggling, drooling and more rubbing hands together)."

Hey!! You are in good company at least.

"Whoopi Goldberg claimed on Monday that if any American service members were charged with "war crimes" in relation to drug boat strikes, it would be because War Secretary Pete Hegseth had "set them up" to take the fall.

Goldberg and her cohosts on ABC's "The View" insisted that the strikes were illegal and argued that in ordering them, Secretary Hegseth was putting the service members who executed those orders at risk of prosecution.

I can't speak to the law of it, I'm not a geopolitical expert, but in terms of the law of it, you're right, Sara, that is why those Army vets explained do not follow — you do not have to follow illegal orders," Sunny Hostin said.
"You know why? Because if this is deemed to have been war crimes, which by all accounts right now there are seven sources that said Pete Hegseth did say ‘kill them all,' even after there were two survivors," Hostin continued. "What you are supposed to do under international law, you are supposed to take those fighters as war criminals, prisoners of war, and you are supposed to give them refuge and you're supposed to take care of them and then you are supposed to put them into a court of law. Instead, they killed them."

Hostin went on to say that there could be legal consequences for those who gave the orders and for those who carried them out.
"That means the person who gave the order can be held accountable and put in prison, and that means the person that conducted — the people who conducted the orders, that pulled the trigger are also responsible and can be held accountable," she said. "So, now you have people that are serving their countries, that are serving this country as patriots, perhaps following an illegal order and then themselves can be court-martialed. Imagine that."
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The talking points of Whoopi and "The View". Wow! I'd hang my head in shame. 😔

That paragon of the right wing media, the NYT, shoots down a lot of what the Post said.

Subject: Hegseth Ordered Lethal Boat Strike but Not the Killing of Survivors, Officials Say – The New York Times


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But don't let me stop you. Keep rubbing those hands together, drooling and over exciting yourselves, that: "This time it's real!" 😉

FYI, the boat was still floating and the original order stated "to destroy the boat". Nothing stated about survivors.

Curious 🤨 If they had rescued the Narco Terrorists "survivors", would you be willing to take them into your homes?

As for me and "Narco terrorists" and after what previous administrations did with Islamic Terrorists at Gitmo when they took over…. Well: Sharks and other fish gotta eat too.

Never have to worry about them killing more Americans (yes all countries in the Americas, not just US).

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 6:45 a.m. PST

At some point the cartels will find other ways to get their product to the U.S., where unfortunately there are millions of waiting customers. One only has to watch a few episodes of that series Contraband on HBO/Max to see that they clearly will go to any length or expense to modify trucks, cars, and boats to get their product past Customs. Unless you want to go to a system like Singapore has, the war on drugs will be like a rollercoaster and at this time it's front and center, but it will wane like everything else.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 6:56 a.m. PST

Aegis,

Yes, criminals always find a way and weak willed drug users always find a source, and if they have to pay more, they will commit crimes to get the money.

Who suffers? We who abide by the law, pay our taxes and don't use said drugs.

The real victims of the drug trade, we who don't use them. They take our taxpayer money to fund rehab programs, pay law enforcement, judges, lawyers, military and so much more. We are robbed, murdered and die and are injured in auto accidents of drug impaired drivers. All so one group can get high and another group does not have to work to make big money!

noggin2nog02 Dec 2025 7:08 a.m. PST

What "narco-terrorists"? Where's the evidence to label them as such? Maybe if the US weren't busy murdering them or blowing them to bits, there could be arrests made and trial proceedings with, you know, actual evidence.

If this was about drugs, then Trump wouldn't be giving out pardons for drug-lords, would he?
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Or maybe like the fictional WMDs in Iraq, it's all about securing the oil supplies.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 7:33 a.m. PST

Noggin,

Why don't you worry about your own country. Many in your country are worried. Your freedoms are disappearing faster than narco terrorists in the Atlantic ocean. 😉

Subject: Daily Mail on X: "Peter Hitchens warns Britain may soon be 'impossible to live in' t.co/9Avbl3UUSq / X


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Do you truly give two shakes of a donkey's tail about the deaths of narco terrorists, or is it just that this gives you another event to allow you to vent your deep seated TDA?

Bluntly: he's here for another 3 years. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

BigfootLover02 Dec 2025 7:56 a.m. PST

Proclaiming "Trump Derangement Syndrome" in response to each and every criticism of Trump is just as thoughtless and tiresome as those opinions Trump's defenders consider to be TDS.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 8:32 a.m. PST

"Proclaiming "Trump Derangement Syndrome" in response to each and every criticism of Trump is just as thoughtless and tiresome as those opinions you consider to be TDS."

Ahh!!! But the fact that every time the MSM and Democrats come up with a new faux outrage du jour, and immediately "the usual suspects" (as someone here says 😉), get on here in a new and righteous huff and indignation, we are supposed to accept it as anything but TDA? 🤣

Now "we" are outraged for the rights of Narco Territorists!
Yesterday it was illegal immigrants.
Before that, etc. etc. etc.

"By God if Trump is for it, we will oppose it!! (Done with many self righteous hurumphs) 😉

While from those in the U.S., possibly somewhat understandable, but from overseas?? And to be parroting "The View". 😱

It is "TDA" now by the way. Trump Addiction Syndrome. Which of course, it is.

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 8:52 a.m. PST

noggin2nog, there was an interesting article in the Wall St. Journal over the weekend where they did talk to the people who use those boats and surprise, surprise, they are running drugs.

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 9:05 a.m. PST

Based on my experience in USCG, there sure look like drug smugglers. I'm sure those on scene had better intell. Narco-terrorists are responsible for deaths of thousands of US citizens (and who knows how many more total). Fitting end to their careers.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 9:26 a.m. PST

Pzivh43 and aegis

👍

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 10:50 a.m. PST

We also don't know if they have deep intelligence that they are not going to disclose.

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