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Wally71530 Nov 2025 9:48 a.m. PST

Trying to identify the nationality a figure is meant to represent. He is a standard bearer carrying a large fish on a pole. Dressed in mail and trousers, a helmet with cheek pieces that has a bird on top. I thought Dacian, by the fish standard but the owl/crow on his hat speaks of Viking. The Figure is 15/18mm. Any help would be appreciated. Manufacturer, catalogue number and designer is above and beyond (Joke). Cant see how to upload a picture.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2025 10:14 a.m. PST

Sorry. For me, the obvious answer is a sandwich bag and a price sticker at the next flea market. Even if you figured out what they are, how many more would you need?

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2025 11:37 a.m. PST

"Fish" standard atop a pole, wearing mail and an open-faced helmet suggests Carolingian to me, with a "Draco"-type standard:

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Griefbringer30 Nov 2025 12:51 p.m. PST

I thought Dacian, by the fish standard but the owl/crow on his hat speaks of Viking.

To my knowledge Vikings did not use Draco standards ("fish on a pole") but Saxons did.

I am not aware of Vikings using bird decorations on their helmets either – that would make me rather think of ancient Celts.

Griefbringer30 Nov 2025 1:19 p.m. PST

After a bit of searching, I found a mention of actual ancient helmet with bird decoration on top, excavated from Romania:

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So maybe your figures are Dacians after all?

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2025 1:23 p.m. PST

I'm traveling so can't look it up…but sounds like one of the old thistle and rose line. Back next week if need to look

Wally71530 Nov 2025 4:04 p.m. PST

Thanx team, would help if i could work out how to upload a picture.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2025 5:29 p.m. PST

You cant upload pics to TMP. Instead you can post a link to a third party site where you have uploaded the picture. Then place the url link to the picture on a TMP thread inside brackets with the IMG then /IMG commands, and Robert is your mother's brother.

Kuznetsov01 Dec 2025 5:37 a.m. PST

The winged helmet was also (mistakenly?) illustrated in the Osprey "Gallic & British Celts" book.

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Wally71501 Dec 2025 9:07 a.m. PST

Thanx, Kutnetsov, It's not a bird with spread wings its roosting.

Thanx Parzival. But I didn't understand a word, sorry. Where do I find a third party website that will let me load a pic on it??

Wally71501 Dec 2025 9:25 a.m. PST

I did find a video with an anglo saxon with Draco Standard. Not armoured but it might be Saxon/Fran/Carolingian they all com from the same stock?? Thanx for your comments and helps. I might just paint one and put it on the table anyway.

Oberlindes Sol LIC Supporting Member of TMP02 Dec 2025 2:06 p.m. PST

Thanx Parzival. But I didn't understand a word, sorry. Where do I find a third party website that will let me load a pic on it??

You can use a free blog site, like Blogger. That is, you create your own blog and post pictures to it.

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