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Old Enoch24 Nov 2025 2:35 a.m. PST

Its interesting how Ukraine has inserted a clause that there will be no obligation to peruse the allegation of war crimes into the terms.

How do peace treaties got resolved by only one side taking part?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 8:56 a.m. PST

Tort, wardog, OVI, Tango +1/ea.


So by your logic Russia should stop advancing now, withdraw and plan another invasion in a couple of years' time?
Not my plan, but an observation … However, based on Russia's past this is the 2d or 3d time they invaded Ukraine, in recent times. That is not only logic, but historical facts … Let there be no doubt, however this ends up … unless Russia can occupy all of Ukraine, they will attack again at some time in the future.

I have no illusions of Putin & Russia's plans. For the future of Ukraine and that region in general. Note: many former WP are now part of NATO. As well as Sweden & Finland joined NATO because of Putin's invasion of Ukraine … The threat here is clear. Plus many didn't like having a Russian boot on their neck. What is so hard to understand about that ? It should be pretty obvious …

Tango0124 Nov 2025 1:17 p.m. PST

Legion 4 + 1


By the way…

Countering disinformation with facts


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Debunked Russian Lies


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Examples of Russian disinformation and the facts


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"Some facts that Americans, particular doubters of Ukraine's position, should keep in mind:

Ukrainian drones have denied the Russians to use tanks and mechanized vehicles at scale, forcing Russian forces to deploy small, dismounted infantry units consisting of 3-5 soldiers. Most Russian soldiers die in droves to advance just meters at a time
The Institute for the Study of War assesses that Russian forces gained 1,420 square kilometers since July 1, 2025 — a rate of only about 13.5 square kilometers per day, well below the norm for modern mechanized warfare.
Russian forces averaged roughly 71 casualties per square kilometer gained in May 2025; 70 casualties per square kilometer in June 2025; 75 casualties per square kilometer in July 2025; and 68 casualties per square kilometer in August 2025. These are horrifying numbers.
At current pace, and assuming Russia doesn't face an economic crisis and can enlist enough troops — both big "ifs" — it will not capture Donbas for at least another 3-4 years.
Russia's most successful effort in 2025 was recapturing Kursk (the Russian oblast Ukrainian forces invaded in a surprise move in August 2024) — an operation that depended on critical support from 10,000 North Korean soldiers, an embarrassment for Russia.
Until now, Putin has been able to sustain this war because of large-scale recruitment with financial incentives.

But there are signs that system is fraying.

Leaked Russian government documents indicate that country suffered on average 35,000 casualties per month from January–September 2025.

Yet it is cutting down on one-time signing bonuses for new military recruits.

Russia may need to switch to politically unpopular compulsory mobilization of reservists, which would increase internal dissent and threaten Putin's leadership.

This is all while Putin has mismanaged Russia's economy, which is suffering from increased war spending, inflation, labor shortages, and reductions in Russia's sovereign wealth fund.

The liquidity portion of Russia's sovereign wealth fund is down to $50.26 USD billion as of October 2025, down from $113 USD billion in 2022 — a decrease of more than 55%.

Russia is facing significant inflation from heavy government spending, with its key interest rate at 16.5%.

The country is facing a gasoline shortage of 13% to 20% of demand due to recent Ukrainian strikes on oil refineries, which US intelligence is supporting.

Also credit President Trump's sanctions on Russian oil companies for stripping away this major revenue source.

In short, the Russian position is unsustainable in the long term, which is why it is desperate to convince the White House, the West and its own domestic population that its superiority is written, so Ukraine should just surrender now.

Russia is reportedly increasing its federal spending on propaganda in the 2026 budget by 54% compared to the 2025 federal budget.

It floods social media with bots and paid commentators to push a false narrative…"


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Why do Russian soldiers behave like savages and barbarians in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine?

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Armand

Cuprum224 Nov 2025 5:05 p.m. PST

The war is ending its fourth year, but the main theme of Western propagandists remains unchanged. "Russia has run out of missiles," "the Russians have run out of artillery shells," "Russian military equipment has been destroyed," "sanctions have torn the Russian economy to shreds," "Putin is terminally ill," "Russians have suffered enormous losses," "the whole world has turned its back on Russia"… and other blah, blah, blah.

Tango, do you want all Ukrainian men to die? How bloodthirsty you are.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Nov 2025 6:59 p.m. PST

Tango +1


Tango, do you want all Ukrainian men to die? How bloodthirsty you are.
Maybe Tango's name should be replaced with Cuprum … Yes ?

Tango0124 Nov 2025 9:22 p.m. PST

When it comes to the military Russians… yes, I became very bloodthirsty …

"Russians have suffered enormous losses," …


That's not fake…


Idem about Russian lies…

Thanks Legion…


Armand

Cuprum224 Nov 2025 10:19 p.m. PST

Russia doesn't need the deaths of Ukrainian men. Russia needs to push NATO away from its borders.
And it will do it…

Tango0124 Nov 2025 10:28 p.m. PST

B.R.I.C.S NEWS…

Zuma's Daughter Linked to Recruiting Africans for Russia War

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Ha!Ha!…What a great job… Russia added 1400 km of border with NATO that they didn't have before due to Finland's incorporation… not so far away, eh?

What about the borders with Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia… ah! I forget Norway too…

Armand

Cuprum224 Nov 2025 10:55 p.m. PST

Tango – is not over yet))) There are major centrifugal tendencies within the West. Internal dissent is growing, and who knows, perhaps in the foreseeable future, repression against the opposition in Europe will lead to the collapse of both the EU and NATO. Let's see—it's interesting)))

Tango0124 Nov 2025 11:13 p.m. PST

Only in your wet dreams… dissent in favour of Russia?… not even in SF movies…


Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP25 Nov 2025 8:13 a.m. PST

Tango +1 … Russia will collapse before the EU and NATO collapses. And that possibility is very, very small. Save for in Putin's/Russian propaganda.

Russia needs to push NATO away from its borders.
And it will do it…
Again, Many NATO nations used to be WP. Again, they didn't like to be under Russian boots … That is why they joined NATO. Among other things … E.g. Sweden and Finland joined for concern of Russian aggression.

Do you or anyone else really think it would be a prudent move for Russia to attack any NATO nation on their border ? Or anywhere else ?

Putin and his regime have proven repeatedly to overestimate their military capabilities and underestimate other nations. E.g. Ukraine … Which some GENs Ret have said and justifiably so that Ukraine is the best combat ready and experienced military in Europe.

E.g. Again, Putin's/Russia's invasion of Ukrainian resulted in Sweden and Finland joining NATO. If Putin didn't want NATO on his borders or NATO to increase its members. I'm pretty sure I'm safe to say most senior military personnel and historians would come to the conclusion. That the Putin and the Russians totally misread the intel. Again, resulting in millions of dead, mostly Russian along with huge losses in armor, and 1/3 of the Black Sea Fleet sunk, etc., etc. … Plus a war heading into its 4th year. Billions of $ of infrastructure destroyed adding to the total mess made by Putin and Russia.

This was not only an intel and military failure. But woke NATO up. Seeing Russia is still a threat to Europe. Reminding everyone involved that is why NATO was created in the first place within a few years of the end of WWII …

France, Germany and the UK have increased their recruiting efforts. Plus increased spending on military assets.

Putin's war just resulted in his fear of NATO to be significantly increase. NATO sees Russia as a clear and present danger to Europe … again … Putin's/Russian's miscalculations only has made the situation worse. For himself and Russia.

Go ahead attack a NATO member … Someone needs to remind Putin about NATO Art.5. An attack on one is an attack on all …And based on the Russian military's performance in Ukraine … I don't think they fare very well in a war with NATO.

Of course Putin always saber rattles about using Nukes … That would just be another bad choice and compound all the other glaring mistakes that he has already made with his invasion of Ukraine.

Tango0125 Nov 2025 1:13 p.m. PST

Legion + 4

Armand

Cuprum227 Nov 2025 9:58 p.m. PST

Ukraine SACRIFICED Entire Brigade To Hold Myrnohrad.

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Cuprum228 Nov 2025 6:07 p.m. PST

A Russian robot removes a Ukrainian mine barrier, preparing for an attack by military vehicles.

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Russian air strikes with modified RBK-500 cluster bombs against the 32nd Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Pokrovsk.

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Old Enoch30 Nov 2025 2:42 a.m. PST

Surely this can not be true. I wish members would stop wrecking the narrative by posting facts. Every one knows the Russians have no weapons left!

Cuprum230 Nov 2025 6:17 a.m. PST

I heard an interesting thought today about the image of the war in Ukraine. One very smart person said that the widespread use of drones has created a situation that would arise in the event of a war using tactical nuclear weapons. Now only "skeletons" or "shadows" of armies are fighting – single tanks, small patrols of 2-3 people… A stronghold is held by only three to five soldiers, rarely showing themselves from their holes. Because the skies are densely populated with reconnaissance and combat drones, the concentration of significant forces is simply impossible. In times of nuclear war, this would have been triggered by an immediate nuclear strike on any even slightly large troop concentration; now, however, it's immediate attacks by drones, ready to pursue even lone soldiers.
"Skeletons of armies"… Quite figurative.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP30 Nov 2025 7:48 a.m. PST

While I think numbers of soldiers will definitely shrink in the AI era, humans will remain significant and numerous weapons. A drone world such as you describe would trigger counter measures we likely cannot even foresee. Every tech advance has brought responses and at least some degree of solutions. With AI, this battle will be similar, but with change coming much faster. Just like in the movies, the machines are coming!!!

Cuprum230 Nov 2025 3:27 p.m. PST

Armies once went into battle in tight formations. But technological advances have since completely transformed the battlefield. Apparently, a new change in the forms of war has now arrived.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2025 4:30 p.m. PST

I think numbers of soldiers will definitely shrink in the AI era, humans will remain significant and numerous weapons.
Yes all major militaries are continuing to develop AI based weapons systems. More robotic, drones, etc. will be seen on the battlefields, as well as at sea and in the air… It will be our 'bots vs. their 'bots. Like we have seen in many sci-fi movies, shows, books, etc.

However, humans will still be involved. But like with almost all tech advancements. There will be less of us and more machines. Which at this point I think is a good path. Regardless the Chicoms and Russians will continue to develop and advance AI and other evolving tech. To stay ahead of the West. So no matter what the US, etc. will still be pushing the envelope to stay ahead of those threats and others. E.g. militant islam … they too will still be a threat. And it appears will be for a long time. No matter how many are killed.

Cuprum203 Dec 2025 9:24 p.m. PST

An analysis of a Ukrainian documentary about the fighting near Andreevka in 2023. With reference to the location in this area:

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP04 Dec 2025 4:59 a.m. PST

Wow !!! 30 Day in the hole … 😧 On Tues. they serve a mean baloney baloney & cheese cheese on white.

Tango0104 Dec 2025 10:18 p.m. PST

Returned Russian POWs hunt down and kill everyone on their former base!

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP05 Dec 2025 4:03 p.m. PST

Wow !!! That's nutz !!!!

Tango0105 Dec 2025 10:18 p.m. PST

Polish New Borsuk IFV challenges KF41 – M2A4 Bradley and AS21 in tracked armored vehicle race.

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Armand

Tango0108 Dec 2025 10:46 p.m. PST

The Moral Urgency of Compromise in Ukraine

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP09 Dec 2025 8:00 a.m. PST

Looks like "Peace" talks are coming along … Appears the Ukraine may lose some terrain. Setting the stage for another Russian invasion at some time in the future. Once they rearm, refit, resupply, etc.

Tango0110 Dec 2025 10:31 p.m. PST

Paramilitary: Ukraine War Threatens Russian Security


"The Ukraine War has been a disaster for Russia. There is a labor shortage because over two million men have been removed from the workforce. Half of these are soldiers who were killed, disabled or missing in Ukraine. The other half are military age men who fled the country to avoid getting put into the army and killed in Ukraine. While it's illegal for Russian men to leave the country to avoid military service, when it's a matter of life or death, motivation overrides laws and rules…"


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Special Operations: Ukrainian Commandos Raid Russian Territory

"Ukrainian special operations forces have been busy this year. Details of most operations remain secret, t0 prevent the Russians from obtaining a more accurate picture of whatever the Ukrainian commandos did to them. Details of some attacks can be revealed. Last September, Ukrainian operators, as special operations troops are known, ventured into Russia. There they destroyed supply and ammunition storage sites as well as unoccupied weapons emplacements and unattended military equipment. Another group infiltrated Russia with trucks secretly carrying UAVs, then launched those to destroy about half of Russia's heavy bombers. Ukraine has created a tradition of spectacularly successful special operations undertakings…"

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Attrition: Hidden Russian Costs Of The Ukraine War


"Russian leaders know that if a lot of men from Russia's major cities, particularly Moscow and St. Petersburg, were in the army and killed or disabled in Ukraine, the war would rapidly become very unpopular and that could lead to unrest. The Russian solution for this was to obtain soldiers who lived in remote areas, especially those living in 26 national republics. Only 82 percent of Russians are ethnic Slavic Russians. The other 18 percent are where Russia obtained most of the troops sent to Ukraine during the first two years of the war. Men in these minority communities were offered large amounts of money, often $20,000 USD or more to join. Larger sums were paid to their families if they were killed in Ukraine. All this cash coming into these small rural communities revolutionized lifestyles. People could upgrade their housing, clothing and buy a car or pickup truck. Many families purchased more elaborate headstones for the lost son, with a picture of him etched into the stone…"


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Morale: Russian Brutality Questioned


"Russia is different from the West and operates differently, especially in wartime. Some of the differences include barbaric treatment of Russian soldiers by their officers, and brutal conduct by Russian soldiers when dealing with enemy prisoners or civilians going about their business. So far there have been over a hundred cases of Russian officers killing their own troops for refusing to fight. This is called zeroing out unfit, rebellious or disliked soldiers. Early in the Russian government explicitly condoned and encouraged these punishments. Russian leaders also ignore Ukrainian or NATO complaints about Russian mistreatment and murder of Ukrainian civilians. Russian leaders regard this atrocious behavior as an example of how Russia is different from the decadent West and will eventually triumph because Russia is willing to do things the decadent Westerners abhor and avoid…"

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Armand

Tango0111 Dec 2025 10:16 p.m. PST

Ukraine Hits Third Russia Shadow Fleet Tanker in Black Sea

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2025 8:37 p.m. PST

How long can Putin keep throwing men and equipment into the meat grinder vs. how long can Ukraine hold them off ?

Tango0112 Dec 2025 9:47 p.m. PST

Good question…

IMHO… both for a looong time…

Armand

Tango0112 Dec 2025 10:33 p.m. PST

Ukraine says it ‘liberated' two settlements in Kharkiv, encircling Russian troops

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Ukraine special forces target (more) Russian vessels in Caspian Sea

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Armand

Tango0115 Dec 2025 10:36 p.m. PST

Ukraine's New Kill-Zone Strategy Turns Frontline Territory Into a Trap for Russians

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Estonia erects first of 600-strong Baltic bunker wall on Russia border

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Armand

Tango0116 Dec 2025 10:46 p.m. PST

Russian Soldiers In Ukraine Selling Their Weapons

"After nearly four years of fighting in Ukraine , more Russian soldiers are reaching the end of their term of service and returning to Russia. Many of them are bringing their weapons home with them. Few try to sneak rifles into Russia, most of the weapons are pistols. These are either Russian models or U.S. and European pistols taken from dead or captured Ukrainian soldiers…"

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Russian Civilian Privation Because Of Ukraine War

"Russian civilians can no longer ignore the Ukraine War. The economic cost of the war has continued. Ukrainian drone attacks on economic targets inside Russia and diversion of more of the Russian economy to the war effort have left Russian civilians with little to buy and not much cash to spend on anything. The Ukrainian drone attacks on refineries eventually led to only 20 percent of refinery capacity operational in August. The high inflation rate and growing unemployment rates led to Russian manufacturers reducing production. Retailers have less to sell because fewer Russians can afford to buy anything. The official government explanation is that this is a temporary situation, which will be resolved once the Ukrainians are defeated. The Ukrainians are not facing defeat, in part because they know what is going on with the Russian economy. Most Russians are unsure because Russian messaging apps and internet access are not working very well at all…"

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Russian Soldiers Shoot Themselves To Avoid Combat

"Russia recently sought to suppress some very bad news. This involved Russian soldiers shooting themselves, or each other in non-vital areas. Such injuries result in several hundred thousand dollars in compensation payments per man. Russian anti-corruption investigators found that at least three dozen members of an elite Guards air assault brigade were involved in this scam which could have earned them nearly $2.5 USD million. The accused blamed it all on low morale. The brigade has been in combat too long and many soldiers were worn out. An increasing number refused to fight. Officers can shoot reluctant soldiers, but the officers are also suffering from poor morale and unwillingness to get their troops involved in heavy combat. The brigade was in bad shape. There were not enough supplies reaching, including basics like food and drinkable water. This was another side effect of drone warfare. Both sides used drones to cut enemy supply lines and often succeeded…"

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Armand

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2025 8:28 a.m. PST

I can only say to all who post for or against each side:

Yet the war continues and young men and women on both sides die going into yet another Christmas. 😔

Tango0117 Dec 2025 1:08 p.m. PST

Any difference with all the previous wars?….


I note one… countries in the past knows who was the bad guys and the good ones…


Not so much today…


Armand

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2025 5:27 p.m. PST

Oh I think we know who are the bad guys in the Russian-Ukraine War.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2025 7:46 p.m. PST

Tango +1 …

Oh I think we know who are the bad guys in the Russian-Ukraine War.
Pretty much …

Tango0117 Dec 2025 10:09 p.m. PST

Kazakhstan Is Building NATO-Standard Shell Factories—and Russia Is Not Happy

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Putin's Final Plan: Partition of Ukraine

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2025 12:28 p.m. PST

Well Putin and his pals can kiss the USA's fat lily-white Bleeped text ! 😎🙂🤩

Tango0118 Dec 2025 1:13 p.m. PST

Ha!Ha!Ha!…

Armand

Tango0119 Dec 2025 10:18 p.m. PST

Should Russia Be Resisted, or Accommodated?

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Armand

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2025 8:47 a.m. PST

When has accommodating a bully ever worked out well?

Tango0121 Dec 2025 1:21 p.m. PST

You know to whom you have to ask… (smile) he and his crew firmly believed it…


Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2025 6:24 p.m. PST

When has accommodating a bully ever worked out well?
As far as I can remember … never … I'm sure many would agree.

Tango0122 Dec 2025 10:30 p.m. PST

Compass Points – Still the King


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Russia is Losing – Time for Putin's 2026 Hybrid Escalation


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Armand

Tango0123 Dec 2025 10:30 p.m. PST

Rubio and Witkoff ‘locked in power struggle over Ukraine'

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2025 4:36 p.m. PST

Russian's plans for "the East" and NATO … Cunning subterfuge, etc. as Russia knows they can't take on NATO with really success. Especially now with their poor performance in Ukraine, extremely his losses with little to show for it …

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Tango0126 Dec 2025 11:06 p.m. PST

Why Putin Fears His Own Generals More Than NATO

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2025 8:41 p.m. PST

Putin should … he is wasting a lot of lives and other assets. However, there must be a strong cabal behind him. And if he has an accident there will be another like him to replace him. And the war would continue …

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2025 5:57 a.m. PST

Legion

Every year this looks so much more like WW1 (on the battlefield). Russia and "allies" losing a city this week, the Ukrainians and "suppliers" being pushed back elsewhere. A kilometer here, a town there.

When and if this ends, what will be the long term impact to the economies of both countries and the ultimate cost of rebuilding (if it is ever done)? Who will pick up the cost?

Ultimately what a waste and so little will change from where it currently is. IMHO

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