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AC196309 Nov 2017 11:33 a.m. PST

Hi,

In 1944 Normandy, would standard German Infantry have been equipped with StG 44s or were they reserved for paratroops, panzer grenadiers and SS units.

My gut feel is that they would have had MP 40s and rifles but looking at the 15mm stuff at Peter Pig it is mostly assault rifles.

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Nov 2017 11:40 a.m. PST

Oh the bug!
The vast majority of the Stgw went to the Eastern front only when units moved west for the Ardennes campaign would quatities of them be encountered I suspect.
L

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP09 Nov 2017 11:41 a.m. PST

Few, if any assault rifles in Normandy, IIRC.

Take another look at the Peter Pig site. Plenty of guys with regular rifles, etc., in the late war line. Even more if you mix in the guys in Zeltbahns.

Mark S

Personal logo jdginaz Supporting Member of TMP09 Nov 2017 6:33 p.m. PST

Volksgrenadiers were the ones that got priority for the STG44 not Panergrenadiers, Fallschirmagers or SS.

Personal logo Cardinal Hawkwood Supporting Member of TMP09 Nov 2017 7:41 p.m. PST

it interferred with carrying ammunition for the MG42

Starfury Rider10 Nov 2017 9:31 a.m. PST

The short-lived Panzer Brigades were slated to have them for their PzGren Coys, and the Sperr Regiments of the Sperr Division (seemingly a few Divs in the 29th Wave). They both crop up around Jul-Aug 1944; I don't think any Sperr units went to Normandy, but I'm sure some Panzer Bdes did.

Gary

christot10 Nov 2017 11:15 a.m. PST

Danny Parker in one of his many books on the Ardennes makes the assertion that for that campaign the STG44 was the commonest sidearm in use by the germans, more infantryman equipped with them than with Kar98's

Personal logo jdginaz Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2017 6:33 p.m. PST

"Danny Parker in one of his many books on the Ardennes makes the assertion that for that campaign the STG44 was the commonest sidearm in use by the germans, more infantryman equipped with them than with Kar98's"

True, but of course all the infantry except for those in the Panzer & Fallschirmjager units were Volksgrenadiers.

Fred Cartwright13 Nov 2017 2:45 a.m. PST

I don't think any Sperr units went to Normandy, but I'm sure some Panzer Bdes did.

Panzer Brigades don't start showing in the West until after Normandy. Priority of weapons in the autumn of 44 was for units rebuilding/forming which included some Panzer Brigades, Panzer Divisions and the Volksgrenadier Divisions. Some Panzer divisions were rebuilt in November/December by merging them with Panzer Brigades. My personal preference is not to be fussed by what the figure is carrying, and designate as rifles or Stg's as needed.

Fred Cartwright13 Nov 2017 2:47 a.m. PST

By the way did anyone find out who makes the best 15mm Charles Martel Army? :-)

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