35thOVI  | 21 Feb 2025 11:30 a.m. PST |
Subject: New coronavirus with potential to cause pandemic discovered in China | Daily Mail Online I see this in the scope of potential bio warfare, as I personally believe the first may NOT have been accidental. Does anyone trust the Chinese to "contain" anything? link
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Giles the Zog | 21 Feb 2025 11:45 a.m. PST |
The UK's Daily Mail, is shall we say, a dubious source of quality news. On 15 January 1934, the popular UK tabloid the Daily Mail published an article called "Hurrah for the Blackshirts!" in support of Oswald Mosley's fascist party. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Here is some salt. |
John the OFM  | 21 Feb 2025 11:54 a.m. PST |
Does anyone trust the Chinese to "contain" anything? No. In fact, I think (with no proof. 🤷) that Covid Alpha was a test run. Note that China also took a big hit casualty wise. They also covered it up and "disappeared" reputable scientists who said so. China is more than willing to take a hit if it hurts The West more. Our foreign policy changes 180 degrees every 4 years. China's does not. Global travel ensures that "the next one" will spread just as rapidly as COVID Alpha did. Also, being a virus, it WILL mutate. And China will once again ruthlessly, and unsuccessfully, suppress word inside China, and ruthlessly and unsuccessfully try to contain it. |
Inch High Guy | 21 Feb 2025 12:38 p.m. PST |
Never forget that China was willing to expend 60+ Million of their own citizens to try out new farming techniques. |
Tortorella  | 21 Feb 2025 12:46 p.m. PST |
Not good….if they go this route again something is going to have to be done about it…. |
Zephyr1 | 21 Feb 2025 2:36 p.m. PST |
**rolls eyes** Here we go again… I'd fear any proposed vaccination more than a "New coronavirus with potential to cause pandemic!" |
35thOVI  | 21 Feb 2025 3:06 p.m. PST |
Zephyr we agree on the shots. This was not to scare people about a new virus. It is the fact that suspiciously, this stuff (not just Covid), comes out of China and magically makes it everywhere with extreme ease. Bluntly, I don't trust these things to be accidental. |
John the OFM  | 21 Feb 2025 3:28 p.m. PST |
I'm current and up to date on my Covid shots, as well as RSV ( or whatever it's called) and flu. I also never got polio. That I have my 3 score plus 15 I partially attribute to that. My grandson slept in my lap last Christmas, and I got norovirus the next day. So, I shat and puked for 24 hours, but I'm better now. I cut my forearm badly at the same time, so got an antibiotic Rx that kept me from drinking beer for a week. But I got better. My only fear of the "new" virus is that the "person in charge" will have fired anyone who is capable of dealing with it capably. If it's another "designer virus", like I suspect Covid was, I also fear that it will be designed to circumvent standard vaccine development procedures. But I WILL take whatever vaccine is offered because I don't know where I put my tin hat, and I consider the likes of Aaron Rodgers asses. My preference will be to take whatever vaccines, nose drops, suppositories or craft beer that is recommended. (I hope it doesn't taste like an IPA, because I don't like my beer to taste like grapefruit rinds.) AND I want to go about business as usual. Take the preferred treatment, or die proudly defying Da Gubmint. |
Tortorella  | 21 Feb 2025 3:40 p.m. PST |
I will do what my apolitical doctor tells me to do. |
35thOVI  | 21 Feb 2025 4:05 p.m. PST |
Tort, how do you know he's apolitical? He tells me otherwise. 😉 |
Tortorella  | 21 Feb 2025 5:24 p.m. PST |
Ya gotta trust somebody in this country! Now I'm down to the dog! |
SBminisguy | 21 Feb 2025 6:24 p.m. PST |
Interesting timing -- a rerformer President just wins re-election and a new virus pops up from the same source as the one the contributed to his 2020 loss…what are the odds?? |
35thOVI  | 21 Feb 2025 6:32 p.m. PST |
SB and threatens China with tariffs and other things. No China would never do that. 😉 |
nsolomon99 | 21 Feb 2025 8:42 p.m. PST |
+1 John the OFM (well said, couldn't agree more) |
dogtail | 21 Feb 2025 9:17 p.m. PST |
My dog had the same stinky fart as in 2019. What are the odds? |
StoneMtnMinis  | 21 Feb 2025 11:05 p.m. PST |
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35thOVI  | 22 Feb 2025 5:30 a.m. PST |
Stone when you are experimenting with "transmission" these "accidental" things happen. 😉 |
John the OFM  | 22 Feb 2025 5:40 a.m. PST |
Structural and functional analyses indicate that HKU5-CoV-2 binds to human ACE2 more efficiently than its predecessor, HKU5-CoV-1. So, it's an improvement! Now they need to make it better able to mutate and more difficult to make a vaccine. Doubling or tripling the rate of mutation should be easy enough. Or that might occur naturally. Even better! |
Grattan54  | 22 Feb 2025 10:29 a.m. PST |
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HMS Exeter | 22 Feb 2025 2:54 p.m. PST |
As I explained to a friend of mine, if I were to be roused from a sound sleep at 2:20AM by a man in turnout gear telling me my house was on fire and to get out, I would. My taxes pay to have him be on the job. Maybe he's overreacting, but an embarrassing trip onto the front yard in my jammies is not a high price to pay for playing it safe. If China does end up being the country zero for many more pandemics I can well imagine their ending up looking out at the world thru a chain link fence. |
korsun0  | 22 Feb 2025 6:21 p.m. PST |
I had 4 vaccine shots, and 4 doses of da 'vid, one near fatal. I'll hopefully miss finding out about the new "accidental" virus…. |
Darrell B D Day | 23 Feb 2025 1:08 a.m. PST |
Like young John the OFM, I've kept taking the jabs – everything on offer. What I want to know is, what kind of beer he likes? I'm told some Americans actually drink Budweiser and even more astonishing, some actually believe it's beer😳😀 DBDD |
John the OFM  | 23 Feb 2025 3:58 a.m. PST |
Genesee Cream Ale, when I buy in bulk is my swill of choice. Dining out, I like Yuengling Lager. I had a Sam Adams at a recent layover in Chicago. It's an acquired taste, but I like it better than Bill Burr does. YouTube link As for Budweiser or Bud Light, we stopped using them to clean our streets, because they proved too corrosive. |
Darrell B D Day | 23 Feb 2025 4:11 a.m. PST |
Of those, the only one I've seen here in the UK is Sam Adam's. It was also my beer of choice on a cruise (the cruise company was American). When I was in Milwaukee for a Gencon some years ago I was able to enjoy sone excellent beers👍. At this time of year, a pint of a good bitter is my choice. Unfortunately, they're never the same from bottles or cans so you have to go to a pub and the price of beer in pubs now is insane. DBDD |
John the OFM  | 23 Feb 2025 5:54 p.m. PST |
There's a "story" about the Milwaukee Braves pitcher Mel Famey. The opposites plied him with some of Milwaukee's finest. It was referred to as "The beer that made Mel Famey walk us." It's a joke that Americans who grew up in my time will instantly be familiar with. Brits? Probably not so much. 🤷😄🙄 What does this have to do with the thread title??? "Take this plane to Havana!" |
Wolfshanza  | 23 Feb 2025 10:26 p.m. PST |
Had the first booster and got sicker than a freakin' dog, so that's it for me ! In the genetic crap shoot, seems like I came out pretty good on not catching stuff :) As far as beer, I find the best one is the one you buy for me :) <lol> |