Editor in Chief Bill  | 22 Oct 2024 12:41 p.m. PST |
Which of Dr. Who's enemies do you prefer to see on the miniature wargaming tabletop? |
etotheipi  | 22 Oct 2024 1:23 p.m. PST |
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20thmaine  | 22 Oct 2024 1:27 p.m. PST |
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JMcCarroll | 22 Oct 2024 2:09 p.m. PST |
Dakeks. How can you not shout Exterminate while placing your arm as a toilet plunger on to your forehead! |
miniMo  | 22 Oct 2024 2:57 p.m. PST |
Cybermen Not foiled by stairs Daleks Bok, the gargoyle "Jenkins. Chap with the wings there. Five rounds rapid." YouTube link |
Herkybird  | 22 Oct 2024 3:00 p.m. PST |
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John Armatys | 22 Oct 2024 3:27 p.m. PST |
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smithsco | 22 Oct 2024 5:02 p.m. PST |
Personally love the Sontarans. Angry potatoes in power armor is a winning combo for me. |
Saber6  | 22 Oct 2024 5:06 p.m. PST |
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NCC1717 | 22 Oct 2024 5:12 p.m. PST |
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DisasterWargamer  | 22 Oct 2024 7:04 p.m. PST |
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McKinstry  | 22 Oct 2024 7:12 p.m. PST |
Daleks. Gotta love the classics. |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 22 Oct 2024 8:46 p.m. PST |
Daleks have so little variety though. |
Herkybird  | 23 Oct 2024 1:19 a.m. PST |
Daleks have so little variety though.
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forrester | 23 Oct 2024 2:13 a.m. PST |
For war games skirmishes I'd say Daleks, who can be supported by auxiliaries such as Ogrons, enslaved human duplicates etc. I don't know where Herkybirds schemes come from but even if you stick to official schemes there are plenty. I have diverged into doing the Red Top Weetabix Dalek and the Blue Radio Times Photoshoot Dalek At least they did exist in physical form at one point. Cybermen, more variation in physical pose but hardly and optio other than silver-though black head pieces for leader. Don't stand certainly but others especially from the classic era eg Sea Devils and Autons |
Herkybird  | 23 Oct 2024 5:53 a.m. PST |
# forrester – I found it on this link link They match all the types I have seen while researching Daleks. Yes, I live a sad life!!!! |
HMS Exeter | 23 Oct 2024 7:44 a.m. PST |
I have never thought The Doctor's adventures lent themselves to table top gaming particularly well. The episodes usually resolved by averting, or at least subverting, combat. There was usually the looming menace of wholesale violence, until The Doctor managed to deus ex machina the conflict into sunshine and buttercups, or, at least, a teachable moment. |
Silurian  | 23 Oct 2024 9:18 a.m. PST |
One of my long-term projects has been wargaming with the Daleks. Probably not involving the Doctor. I have a bunch of 1/72 70's British stuff and trying to get started with 3-D printing for the daleks. For them there is a lot of variety as already mentioned. A number of variants, Ogrons, robo-men, hoverbouts, saucers, various heavy weapons (illustrated in the old Dalek annuals). |
Royston Papworth | 23 Oct 2024 10:53 a.m. PST |
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The H Man | 23 Oct 2024 5:38 p.m. PST |
"Daleks have so little variety though." Add robomen, Kaleds, others? I have to agree with "Dakeks." No tartan trousers are safe. Of course, they have shielding to deflect the inevitable moon attack. Unfortunately women have only become more vulnerable to Dakeks over the years. Doubley so with clutches being inferior to the good old hand bag counter attack. |
HMS Exeter | 23 Oct 2024 7:35 p.m. PST |
IIRC, the first human victory over a Dalek early model was won with mud and a raincoat. |
The H Man | 24 Oct 2024 1:28 a.m. PST |
So tougher than war of the world's aliens then. Or the aliens in signs. Cybermen do pretty well in poorer areas, I'm told. PS, first human victory over a Dalek would be in Genesis, a decade later. Only two humans, mind. |
etotheipi  | 24 Oct 2024 3:30 a.m. PST |
First in broadcast order, first on Dr. Who's personal time line, or first in the Dalek's timeine? |
The H Man | 24 Oct 2024 5:04 p.m. PST |
Broadcast order and doctors timeline are the same. He didn't recognise them, from what I remember. The Daleks was first broadcast order and Doctors personal order, as he didn't recognise them. Genesis of the Daleks was their, well, Genesis. So out side of any Kaleds/davros prequel?? There's nothing before that. Unless the later classics say otherwise?? Or the modern tat spewed out some nonsense on the subject, which would be best forgotten. At this point, probably multi coloured travel machines, picking funny names or such like. "I feel like a Dalek today," Dalek voice, of course. Doctor Whom (sadly, not a typo) overhead and thus the name stuck. |
etotheipi  | 25 Oct 2024 6:35 a.m. PST |
Broadcast order and doctors timeline are the same. [minimal spolier] In Face of Evil, my fave episode, The Doctor lands on a planet where he in his personal past has been before and caused the problem he has to fix. There is no broadcast version of the prior event, so the first broadcast of him being there is not the first time in his personal timeline that he had been there. There are a few other flashbacks. The entire River Song story arc starts with the doctor meeting someone that knows a future him. in this case, his broadcast timeline precedes his personal timeline – a reverse flashback. For the two not to be the same, all he has to do is visit someplace that he has been to before, but not yet. I don't know if there's a retro-fill in episode. I haven't seen all the newer series. |
The H Man | 25 Oct 2024 5:41 p.m. PST |
Face of evil. True, but that wasn't about the Daleks. Also it's still the same timeline/order. The fact the doctor had a life up to unearthly child is not disputed. But it didn't involve the Daleks. River Song. Modern tat, pinch of salt. The doctor meeting someone from his future doesn't change his time line. It was often said, "let's step out of the TARDIS," or similar. They did. Even if he goes somewhere he later goes in his future, it is still the broadcast and personal order being the same. For it to be otherwise, it would require a full on flashback episode, or flash forward episode with no current stuff. Even then, it would only be a blip. Dr Who is an ongoing serial, where both the shows airing and the characters life run in the same direction. There may be gaps between stories in the doctors life that aren't shown sometimes, but it's still running in the same direction as the televised episodes. It may show his future or his past, but it's done so in the context of his current timeline, which runs with the order of the televised episodes. Plenty of shows (basically all ever made) have eliments of people's past, even future shown or mentioned, but it's still in the context of the person's normal timeline and televised episodes order. |
TimePortal | 26 Oct 2024 2:39 p.m. PST |
Iirc, several adversaries are mentioned in passing, as being involved in centuries long stalemate wars with different enemies. So a miniatures conflict can be imagined for the battle board. |
TimePortal | 26 Oct 2024 2:40 p.m. PST |
Thanks Herky for the commander and support breakdown and images. |
The H Man | 26 Oct 2024 5:03 p.m. PST |
What about movie, and in 8th doctors case, post movie Daleks? As odd as they weren't, I still wish we lived in that tv audience timeline. Then again, the next season of the seventh that wasn't sounded even better. But no-o, we get dumped with endlessly degrading garbage. I can't honestly complain too much about the 9th doctor, as much as I may like (Christopher Eccleston bailing ((probably a smart move by him)), Jack, so on), as it was the first season back, so could be forgiven. But it only got worse. I'll never understand the trend of taking out the unique selling points of franchises. Godzilla's known for a guy in a suit stomping miniature cities. So many kids shows known for stop motion, real train set, cell animation, so on have suddenly turned cheap and nasty CGI. Still hoping they'll rest Who a while, then pick up from the 8th doctor. They did it easily enough with the current 9th, just appearing from no where, so can do it again. Alan Davies was mentioned as a possible 9th. So that could work for a proper 9th this time. He also worked on QI, so that may be enough to appease certain groups without having to sully the show itself. Not sure about companions, all my picks may be considered too old or unavailable, Emilia Fox, Sally Phillips, Cathrine Parkinson. I think the BBC really missed a trick with that line up. I'd be glued. |
forrester | 27 Oct 2024 7:03 a.m. PST |
In an attempt to go back on topic I think it's hard to find a tabletop roles for a main character who is decidedly not military but no problem using the huge fictional universe to set up military encounters. There are plenty of references to long wars taking place offscreen. The Doctor can't be everywhere .but it seems Daleks can. Anyone who knows about the old 60's Dalek Annuals (if only they'd do reprints)will be aware of a wide world with not a Doctor in sight. Just throw together any futuristic human forces you might have. |
The H Man | 27 Oct 2024 3:56 p.m. PST |
I could see Susan leading human forces against some last hold outs of Daleks and robomen, Conner style. At night, a Dalek moves over human skulls, two robomen walk beside it. One turns and shoots towards camera. A human jumps up and throws a grenade, but is death rayed by the Dalek. The grenade explodes, destroying the Dalek, you've seen the film. Ends with Susan standing above a crowd of people chanting "Who, Who, Who!" Poor guy in the back of the pickup never made it. Knock, knock. "Yes, hello," woman opens front door, even though there's no wall next to it. "Hello ma'am. I'm under Who. I'm so sorry to tell you your husband has died." "What? No! It can't be…" Yeah, you've probably seen that one too. |